Copy shortcut structure

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Hi Friedrich,

Is there any chance to be able to copy the shortcut structure from one
install to another? Or export/import?

Here is what I'm entering into every install that I'm building right now:

Programs
Icetips Creative
Documenation
2 shortcut links
Product Name
3 shortcut links

I'm copying some of the installs but I've had to reconstruct this in
several.

Also: F2 does not open the tree node for edit, like most programs do. The
only way I can find to edit the text is to click on it with the mouse - or
open the properties window - which also doesn't have a hotkey. Insert key
does not work to create a new entry, delete key works to remove.

Also: When a shortcut is selected, you cannot right click and add. You
have to select the folder node and then select add and then select folder or
shortcut. Being able to just hit insert to create a shortcut would be very
nice. Being able to right click on a shortcut and select add a shortcut
would also be very nice.

I haven't checked how this is in SB7 yet so this may be mute;)

Best regards,

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Arnór Baldvinsson - Icetips Creative, Inc.
Port Angeles, Washington
www.icetips.com - www.buildautomator.com

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> Is there any chance to be able to copy the shortcut structure from one
> install to another? Or export/import?
>
> Here is what I'm entering into every install that I'm building right now:
>
> Programs
> Icetips Creative
> Documenation
> 2 shortcut links
> Product Name
> 3 shortcut links
>
> I'm copying some of the installs but I've had to reconstruct this in
> several.

Hi Arnor,

How about create a "generic" installer and then save/use that as a template
from which to create others?

All you'd need to do is modify the shortcut (and other data) that way.

Does that help?

Charles

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Hi Charles,

> How about create a "generic" installer and then save/use that as a template
> from which to create others?

That's what I do<g> But, often times you have installs that you are
modifying, not creating. You can copy/paste from the source editor, but it
would be so simple to just click on a node in the tree and copy it.

It also does not deal with the issues in editing/creating stuff in the tree.

Best regards,

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Arnór Baldvinsson - Icetips Creative, Inc.
Port Angeles, Washington
www.icetips.com - www.buildautomator.com

Icetips product subscriptions at http://www.icetips.com/subscribe.php

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Hi Arnór,

> Is there any chance to be able to copy the shortcut structure from one
> install to another? Or export/import?
>
> Here is what I'm entering into every install that I'm building right now:
>
> Programs
> Icetips Creative
> Documenation
> 2 shortcut links
> Product Name
> 3 shortcut links
>
> I'm copying some of the installs but I've had to reconstruct this in
> several.

At the moment, this is not possible and will also not be supported in V7.0.

Some "Visualizer" created items are protected by "Referential SetupScript
Integrity" (RSSI). Those items begin with a "::". For example, ::Create
Folder or ::Create Shortcut. RSSI refers to the concept that if one entity
references another then that other entity actually exists.

All items that are protected by RSSI cannot be copied or cut and pasted.
You can only "move" those items up/down in a script.

So the only solution to work around this and to be able to copy the Shortcut
structure from one install to another by using "copy and paste" is to use
the equivalent of the "Shortcut Visualizer". That is the "Create
Shortcut..." and "Create Folder..." script functions.

> Also: F2 does not open the tree node for edit, like most programs do.
> The only way I can find to edit the text is to click on it with the
> mouse - or open the properties window - which also doesn't have a hotkey.
> Insert key does not work to create a new entry, delete key works to
> remove.

Good point. We have to add this to SB7.

> Also: When a shortcut is selected, you cannot right click and add. You
> have to select the folder node and then select add and then select folder
> or shortcut. Being able to just hit insert to create a shortcut would
> be very nice. Being able to right click on a shortcut and select add a
> shortcut would also be very nice.

I agree. Unfortunately, there is no way to get the "parent shortcut folder"
information if you have a Shortcut selected. It can only be retrieved if
the node is selected.

But I'll re-check if there is any other way to handle this.

>
> I haven't checked how this is in SB7 yet so this may be mute;)
>

It's still the same in SB7 :)

Thank you for your suggestions!

Friedrich

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Hi Friedrich,

> So the only solution to work around this and to be able to copy the Shortcut
> structure from one install to another by using "copy and paste" is to use
> the equivalent of the "Shortcut Visualizer". That is the "Create
> Shortcut..." and "Create Folder..." script functions.

Would it be possible for you do add some kind of import/export for these
items?

>> Also: F2 does not open the tree node for edit, like most programs do.
>
> Good point. We have to add this to SB7.

I have noticed this in other tree structures as well, unfortunately I didn't
make note of which ones:(

> I agree. Unfortunately, there is no way to get the "parent shortcut folder"
> information if you have a Shortcut selected. It can only be retrieved if
> the node is selected.
>
> But I'll re-check if there is any other way to handle this.

I constantly find the shortcut setup kind of "inconvenient". I think it
needs a bit of Friedrich touch&magic:)


Best regards,

--
Arnór Baldvinsson - Icetips Creative, Inc.
Port Angeles, Washington
www.icetips.com - www.buildautomator.com

Icetips product subscriptions at http://www.icetips.com/subscribe.php

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Hi Arnór,

> Would it be possible for you do add some kind of import/export for these
> items?

If we can provide some kind of "Import/Export" for this stuff then we also
have everything available to support copy/past. Unfortunately, it's not a
trivial task :-(

>>> Also: F2 does not open the tree node for edit, like most programs do.
>>
>> Good point. We have to add this to SB7.
>
> I have noticed this in other tree structures as well, unfortunately
> I didn't make note of which ones:(

I'll check this, thank you.

>> I agree. Unfortunately, there is no way to get the "parent shortcut
>> folder" information if you have a Shortcut selected. It can only be
>> retrieved if the node is selected.
>>
>> But I'll re-check if there is any other way to handle this.
>
> I constantly find the shortcut setup kind of "inconvenient". I think it
> needs a bit of Friedrich touch&magic:)

I agree. The problem is that Shortcut folders and Shortcuts are nothing
more than folders and files.

For example, in Windows Explorer, you have to select the "parent" folder to
create a sub-folder.

c:\test
c:\test\BuildAutomator
c:\test\BuildAutomator\Arnór

That means, to create a "Arnór" subfolder under "BuildAutomator", you have
to highlight c:\test\BuildAutomator

It's very similar to what you have to do in the Shortcuts Visualizer.

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Hi Friedrick,

> For example, in Windows Explorer, you have to select the "parent" folder to
> create a sub-folder.
>
> c:\test
> c:\test\BuildAutomator
> c:\test\BuildAutomator\Arnór
>
> That means, to create a "Arnór" subfolder under "BuildAutomator", you have
> to highlight c:\test\BuildAutomator

Yes and no. In the tree, yes, but in Explorer you can right click in the
file list and select "New | Folder"

I understand the problem, it just seems that you should be able to get the
parent ID when you right click on a child item.

Best regards,

--
Arnór Baldvinsson - Icetips Creative, Inc.
Port Angeles, Washington
www.icetips.com - www.buildautomator.com

Icetips product subscriptions at http://www.icetips.com/subscribe.php

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Hi Arnór,

> Also: F2 does not open the tree node for edit, like most programs do.
> The only way I can find to edit the text is to click on it with the
> mouse - or open the properties window - which also doesn't have a
> hotkey. Insert key does not work to create a new entry, delete key
> works to remove.

Added. The F2 key starts editing the selected tree cell now in SB6 and SB7.

Thanks again for your suggestion.

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Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

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