Windows 7 Logo Requirements

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Microsoft improved the process for gaining certification for Windows 7. The
very good news is that the use of Windows Installer (MSI) or ClickOnce is no
longer listed as an explicit requirement! In other words, SetupBuilder 6.9
and 7.0 can be used to meet Certified for Windows 7 Logo requirements!

This is a very significant and welcome development. There was already a
change in the Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Certification Requirements --
MSI installation was OPTIONAL and no longer REQUIRED!

Partners must meet the following "requirements" to gain Windows 7
certification:

- Comply with Anti-spyware Coalition Guidelines - Malware or Spyware is not
accepted.
- Do not modify Windows Resource Protection (WRP) protected resources.
- Ensure ongoing quality - in short, receive crash data from Windows Error
Reporting and fix all crash reported.

Partners must meet the following "policies" to gain Windows 7 certification:

- Install and uninstall cleanly.
- Install to the correct folders by default - the "Program Files" folder
should be the default.
- Support x64 versions of Windows.
- Follow User Account Control (UAC) Guidelines.
- Do not load Services and Drivers in Safe Mode.
- Digitally Sign Executable Files (.exe, .dll, .ocx, etc.).
- Do not prevent an installation or application from launching because of OS
version checking.
- Prevent unnecessary reboots - take advantage of the Restart Manager.
- Support multiuser sessions.
- Minimize application failures.


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> Microsoft improved the process for gaining certification for Windows 7.

Anything about the costs?

The "Vista-compatible" and "Works with Vista" logos were assigned by
3rd-party consultants who checked the programs accordance with the
requirements posted be MS.

The costs were up to $xx,000!

We turned it to the opposite, we say: "Vista is able to run our software"!

Our product-website will have a page with screenshots taken from all
different platforms we support.


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If a Partner and when Microsoft does promotions which they WILL do at some time just before Windows 7 is released, then it will be FREE .....

Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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Wolfgang,

>
> Anything about the costs?
>

As it is planned now, the logo certification test itself for Windows 7
(client application certification) will be free.

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Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
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+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

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Another conquest to gain then for us both ? <vbg>


Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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>
> Another conquest to gain then for us both ? <vbg>
>

But there is still the VeriSign "hurdle" <vbg>

You know, Lindersoft is an official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate
Partner. VeriSign does not give us a code-signing certificate which is
required for the Winqual account <g>

Friedrich

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Lindersoft
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SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

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Friedrich mon ami .....

A french thought for you (checks are welcome <g>) :

call your microsoft contact and tell him the story of our certification - I can vouch if need be - tell him his French conterpart is aware of the situation created last
year by Versign - and simply offer them to be also on the ceretificate reseller list for Microsoft partners and that you will offer services "like in setup builder" (ie
tailor made for customers and NOT for your bank account)

could be worth a phone call

and would be an excellent revenge on verisign and the way they treated us all :)


Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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> Friedrich mon ami .....
>
> A french thought for you (checks are welcome <g>) :
>
> call your microsoft contact and tell him the story of our certification
> - I can vouch if need be - tell him his French conterpart is aware of
> the situation created last year by Versign - and simply offer them to
> be also on the ceretificate reseller list for Microsoft partners and
> that you will offer services "like in setup builder" (ie tailor made
> for customers and NOT for your bank account)
>
> could be worth a phone call
>
> and would be an excellent revenge on verisign and the way they treated
> us all :)

Well, I already told Microsoft Germany my story (a few weeks ago). And do
you know what they said:


"You don't need a digital signature to do a logo certification. Perhaps you
confuse VeriSign with VeriTest"?


What???? Okay, I tried it again. I told them that you definitely need a
VeriSign digital signature to transfer your product information to Winqual
and that an existing Comodo signature (or Thawte, etc.) does not work.
Well, they had no (ABSOLUTELY NO) idea what I was talking about :-( Then I
gave up.

Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

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See Friedrich - that is the difference :)

I never gave up when confronted to all those pbs last year ....

Call him again and ask to speak higher up if he is not aware of what "they" all require ....

Winqual account requires a Verisign ceretificate

And Winqual belongs to Microsoft so ..... they easily could change the rules IF enough "heavy" people asked ..... and you plus the poney are a heavy weight :)

When I asked ..... I was politely told it would follow up higher ..... but of course never received any news



Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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>Well, they had no (ABSOLUTELY NO) idea what I was talking about :-( Then I
>gave up.

it's a pretty bad sign when employees from a private company start to
act like if they were member of a government administration. Maybe
it's time to see if we could get certified for Linux.... <g>

Bernard

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>>Well, they had no (ABSOLUTELY NO) idea what I was talking about :-( Then
>>I gave up.
>
> it's a pretty bad sign when employees from a private company start to
> act like if they were member of a government administration. Maybe
> it's time to see if we could get certified for Linux.... <g>

I agree. A VeriSign signing certificate does not make any sense here at
all.

We are registered with Microsoft, they have our credit card number, they
ship DVDs to our company address, we are part of the official internal beta
test team for Windows, Microsoft is even a SetupBuilder customer. But we
can't open our own Winqual account (to do logo certification tests) because
VeriSign does not provide us with a signing certificate. BTW, one month
after they denied our request for a certificate, we received an offer to
*sell* VeriSign certificates. Is that strange or not?

Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

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Friedrich,

The certificate I have used last year is still valid till march do you want to use it again ?

Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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Its Chicago, all over again! LOL

BTW, one month
> after they denied our request for a certificate, we received an offer to
> *sell* VeriSign certificates. Is that strange or not?

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> BTW, one month
>after they denied our request for a certificate, we received an offer to
>*sell* VeriSign certificates. Is that strange or not?

Ho boy! Strange is a kind word.... ;-)

Bernard

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Eve-Online is dropping their support of Linux since there is no growth to
justify development for it any longer. They still support the Mac and
Windows platforms because they are seeing new customer growth on those
platforms. http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=625

If a good gaming platform like Linux can't attract new customers... <g>

Maybe
> it's time to see if we could get certified for Linux.... <g>
>
> Bernard
>

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Russell B. Eggen
www.radfusion.com
Skype Clarion chat: http://tinyurl.com/2273lm

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> Microsoft improved the process for gaining certification for Windows 7. The
> very good news is that the use of Windows Installer (MSI) or ClickOnce is no
> longer listed as an explicit requirement! In other words, SetupBuilder 6.9
> and 7.0 can be used to meet Certified for Windows 7 Logo requirements!

Cool - very good news!

Not only for you, but for the rest of us as well<g>


Charles


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> Cool - very good news!
>
> Not only for you, but for the rest of us as well<g>

Absolutely :)

Friedrich

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Hi Jean-Pierre,

>
> The certificate I have used last year is still valid till march do you
> want to use it again ?
>

Thank you for your kind offer! The problem is that Microsoft can't "switch"
our product certification from your Winqual account to us. So as I
understand it, I can't use your signing certificate to transmit data to our
Winqual account. But I am not sure if this is really the case. Please
correct me if you have other information.

Thanks,
Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

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I do not remember how I did last year but I did use my account for SB no ?
and then Microsoft switched it over no ?

or did we not switch it over ?

It is still in my winqual account ?

I cannot even connect any longer to winqual ???? always the help file

They changed all this also ?

Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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Hi Jean-Pierre,

> I do not remember how I did last year but I did use my account for SB no ?
> and then Microsoft switched it over no ?
>
> or did we not switch it over ?
>
> It is still in my winqual account ?
>
> I cannot even connect any longer to winqual ???? always the help file
>
> They changed all this also ?

No, Microsoft never switched it over -- we do not have a Winqual account
because of VeriSign. It's still in your account.

Friedrich

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>
> Its Chicago, all over again! LOL
>

<ROFL> You are so right <g>

Friedrich

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But it is linked in your Microsoft Partner account ?

Want to do it again ?

Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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> But it is linked in your Microsoft Partner account ?
>
> Want to do it again ?

When using your Winqual account, it's always linked to you (as I understand
it). So all documentation says SetupBuilder is a DMC product (and not
Lindersoft) <g> Even if it is linked to our Lindersoft Microsoft Partner
account.

Friedrich

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You again forgot sending me the monthly check !!! <vbg>

Hummm ..... not documentation but indeed the link is still there

Buy me out and pay with a poney express ? :)

Call your M$ man and get him to "do" something .... if they want you ?

Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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> You again forgot sending me the monthly check !!! <vbg>
>
> Hummm ..... not documentation but indeed the link is still there
>
> Buy me out and pay with a poney express ? :)
>
> Call your M$ man and get him to "do" something .... if they want you ?

Already tried that. They can't do anything.

Friedrich

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Open an USA office with all legal papers and get the verisign cert from there will be easier .....
I'm sure it will not be difficult and quick for you



Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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> Open an USA office with all legal papers and get the verisign cert from
> there will be easier ..... I'm sure it will not be difficult and quick for
> you

We have a legal corporation with all the legal papers, bank accounts and
credit cards, all issued to Lindersoft. But Lindersoft is a Comodo Partner.
Do you see where the problem might be <g>

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Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
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+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

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Try buying the cert from USA and see the result ....

If they also refuse then you have a legal international case in hands and I doubt Microsoft needs this kind of publicity these days ...

Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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> Try buying the cert from USA and see the result ....
>
> If they also refuse then you have a legal international case in
> hands and I doubt Microsoft needs this kind of publicity these days ...

Of course, I tried to buy directly from the USA ;-)

Live is too short to worry about the small things <g>. We'll not do Windows
7 logo certification for our own products.

Friedrich

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and that is a real pity if YOU of all cannot get that certification..... mainly because of this verisign thing ....

if ever you change your mind ... I'll help in all ways possible

Cordialement - Best regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

CGF

DMC - Data Management Center
A tool to let you Migrate Import Export Transfer your Data
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" &
"Works with Windows Server 2008"

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> and that is a real pity if YOU of all cannot get that certification.....
> mainly because of this verisign thing ....
>
> if ever you change your mind ... I'll help in all ways possible

Thank you :)

The good thing is our SetupBuilder can be used compile installations for
products to meet Certified for Windows 7 Logo requirements <g>

Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner