SetupBuilder and Windows 7 "Release Candidate"

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All,

During the last few days, we have tested SetupBuilder on the official
Windows 7 "release candidate". The good news is that the latest
SetupBuilder 6.9 and 7.0 (beta) IDE and installers created with SetupBuilder
work fine on Windows 7 RC!

We are committed to providing you with support for the latest advancements
in installation, deployment and operating system technology!

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BTW, we'll release a new SB6 update when Windows 7 RC is available. Win7 RC
required some internal modifications to provide compatibility with the new
operating system build.

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I was not specific enough. When I said "...the latest SetupBuilder 6.9 and
7.0 (beta) work fine on Windows 7 RC...", I referred to the latest
*internal* SB6/7.

To ensure that the application installs properly using the latest Windows 7,
you need a Windows 7 (RC) compatible installer. Otherwise, you will get the
"Program Assistant Compatibility" mitigation. We ported the code back from
SB7 to SB6 to fully support the latest Win7 from the installer. We'll
release this SB6 maintenance build when Win7 RC is available to the public.

BTW, the feature to make your application Win7-aware is an exclusive
SetupBuilder 7 feature and will *not* be back-ported to SB6!

The above releases will be available, free of charge, to all SetupBuilder
customers who have an active SetupBuilder maintenance subscription plan. If
you do not have an active subscription plan, please contact your account
manager at sales@lindersoft.com.

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> I was not specific enough. When I said "...the latest SetupBuilder 6.9 and
> 7.0 (beta) work fine on Windows 7 RC...", I referred to the latest
> *internal* SB6/7.
>
> To ensure that the application installs properly using the latest Windows 7,
> you need a Windows 7 (RC) compatible installer. Otherwise, you will get the
> "Program Assistant Compatibility" mitigation. We ported the code back from
> SB7 to SB6 to fully support the latest Win7 from the installer. We'll
> release this SB6 maintenance build when Win7 RC is available to the public.
>
> BTW, the feature to make your application Win7-aware is an exclusive
> SetupBuilder 7 feature and will *not* be back-ported to SB6!

Friedrich,

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd371711(VS.85).aspx

Some additional reading material for this new Windows 7 manifest for
SetupBuilder 7 users.

David

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By the way, the Windows 7 Release Candidate will be made available to MSDN
and Technet subscribers on April 30, 2009. The public release of the
Windows 7 RC will begin May 5, 2009

To give you enough time to recompile your SB6 projects, we'll make the
Windows 7 RC compatible version of SetupBuilder 6 available on April 29,
2009 (one day before the launch of the official Win7 RC).

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Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

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Now this is service. Thanks Friedrich

so glad I renewed my subscription

kind regards

Ben

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> Now this is service. Thanks Friedrich
>
> so glad I renewed my subscription

Thank YOU, Ben :)

FRiedrich

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>The public release of the Windows 7 RC will begin May 5, 2009

Excellent work on Win7 testing, Friedrich! You set the gold standard.

But boy, decisions decisions. I've been delayed on my migration of Vista
32 to 64 for some months - finally I see a window opening up (so to
speak) and here comes RC1.

Any thoughts on whether it's best to just bit the bullet with RC1 and
upgrade to RTM? I assume there's going to be an upgrade path, unlike the
betas. Have you heard?

In any case I'm really hoping I can create a VM image of my existing
Vista 32 installation to assist in the migration.

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Hi Dave,

>
> Excellent work on Win7 testing, Friedrich! You set the gold standard.
>

Thank you :)

> But boy, decisions decisions. I've been delayed on my migration of Vista
> 32 to 64 for some months - finally I see a window opening up (so to speak)
> and here comes RC1.
>
> Any thoughts on whether it's best to just bit the bullet with RC1 and
> upgrade to RTM? I assume there's going to be an upgrade path, unlike the
> betas. Have you heard?
>
> In any case I'm really hoping I can create a VM image of my existing Vista
> 32 installation to assist in the migration.

We have replaced Vista 64-bit with Windows 7 RC 64-bit on two machines and
there is a huge speed difference. The next Win7 release will be RTM (that's
the plan). From my experiences, it's always a good idea to make a fresh
install after all the Windows alpha, beta and release candidate installs.
If possible, I would try to install Win7 RC in a VM. If you are using Vista
32-bit for months and you can live with it, wait until September/October and
do not migrate from Vista 32-bit to 64-bit. On the other hand, VMWare works
so very cool on Vista 64-bit <g>

Friedrich

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>If you are using Vista 32-bit for months and you can live with it,
>wait until September/October and do not migrate from Vista 32-bit to
>64-bit. On the other hand, VMWare works so very cool on Vista 64-bit
><g>

I don't think I can wait that long, so perhaps what I'll do is go ahead
with Vista 64, try out the RC in a VM, and then plan an upgrade to Win7
in the fall. Thanks for the input!

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Dave,
I have a Notebook with Vista 32, is it possible to install W7 over the Vista
without having driver problems?
Thanks

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>I have a Notebook with Vista 32, is it possible to install W7 over the
>Vista without having driver problems?

I don't know - I haven't even attempted a desktop W7 install yet. I
imagine it depends entirely on your laptop's hardware.

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If its an OEM version, I would never attempt an upgrade that bypasses the
OEM (once was enough <g>). Either get the upgrade from your machine vendor
or buy a new machine.

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>> I have a Notebook with Vista 32, is it possible to install W7 over the Vista without having driver problems?
>
> I don't know - I haven't even attempted a desktop W7 install yet. I imagine it depends entirely on your laptop's hardware.

Easiest (and quickest) OS I ever installed. I installed on bare metal in
a few pain-free minutes. It had built-in drivers for essentially all my
hardware and set everything up, including recognizing my installed
network. About the only thing I did was change the IP from dynamic to
fixed.

Oh, wait. I had to download a 64-bit driver from HP for my network MFP.
And it still doesn't know how to access the scanner part of the MFP.
(The printer is getting a little long in the tooth. <g>)

One of the key design factors was compatibility with all Vista drivers.
Anything already running Vista should run W7 easily. If anything, the
hardware requirements were reduced.

But, I would think it best not to install the beta over an existing OS.
Backing out might not be possible. Installs in 5 minutes in a VM.
I am using the (free) MS Virtual PC to run the 32 bit OS under the 64
bit OS.

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> By the way, the Windows 7 Release Candidate will be made available to MSDN
> and Technet subscribers on April 30, 2009. The public release of the
> Windows 7 RC will begin May 5, 2009
>
> To give you enough time to recompile your SB6 projects, we'll make the
> Windows 7 RC compatible version of SetupBuilder 6 available on April 29,
> 2009 (one day before the launch of the official Win7 RC).

Friedrich,

In your opinion, do you think Microsoft will finally have an official
release - Windows 7 64 bit that does not require a fresh install (as in
changing from one Major OS version to another Major OS version as in the
past, it was always recommended a fresh install)?

ie - Upgrade Vista Ultimate 64 to Windows 7 Ultimate 64, based upon current
projected data.

David


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Hello David,

> In your opinion, do you think Microsoft will finally have an official
> release - Windows 7 64 bit that does not require a fresh install (as in
> changing from one Major OS version to another Major OS version as in the
> past, it was always recommended a fresh install)?
>
> ie - Upgrade Vista Ultimate 64 to Windows 7 Ultimate 64, based upon
> current projected data.

I checked this with Microsoft and the following Operating Systems will be
fully supported for Win7 upgrading:

- Windows Vista SP1
- Windows Vista SP2
- Windows Server 2008
- Windows Server 2008 SP2

Friedrich

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> Hello David,
>
>> In your opinion, do you think Microsoft will finally have an official
>> release - Windows 7 64 bit that does not require a fresh install (as in
>> changing from one Major OS version to another Major OS version as in the
>> past, it was always recommended a fresh install)?
>>
>> ie - Upgrade Vista Ultimate 64 to Windows 7 Ultimate 64, based upon
>> current projected data.
>
> I checked this with Microsoft and the following Operating Systems will be
> fully supported for Win7 upgrading:

Friedrich,

This is VERY good news - Many developers are reluctant, initially, to take
the time to do a fresh install and transfer their working environment - of
course, with a good backup in place, this will make the transition to
Windows 7 easier than past OS changes.

Thanks for taking the time to followup!

David

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Technet also has a page on migrating from XP to Win 7
http://edge.technet.com/Media/User-State-Migration-with-Windows-7/

Jane Fleming

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Jane,

Thanks for the link!

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Another alternative - Windows 7 XP mode

I am more concerned more will limp along with this solution (although, SOME
will have legitimate reasons to use it).

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/business/archive/2009/04/24/coming-soon-windows-xp-mode-and-windows-virtual-pc.aspx

http://www.infoworld.com/d/virtualization/microsoft-gives-more-details-windows-7-xp-mode-960

You'll need Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate or Enterprise versions to run
it (unless an OEM preloads it).

AND, there will be the hard line questions - IS your XP machine capable of
running Windows 7?

Of course, there will be special circumstances where SOME XP users NEED to
run a VM to cover a critical app to keep their business running,
etc,

But, time to embrace the latest technologies and move forward - NOT keep
everything running in Windows 7 XP Mode Virtual Machine type thinking.

David

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