Service installs SB7

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Friedrich,

I can add a service, no problem. Actually a bit too easy <g>. The help
topic for it could stand some embellishment (later). ;-)

Anyway, what about web updates? If I make a change to the service program,
how does web update handle this? Do I need to stop, uninstall first? Any
examples?

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> Anyway, what about web updates? If I make a change to the service program,
> how does web update handle this? Do I need to stop, uninstall first?

Hi Russ,

You handle this in your new web update installer (not the wupdate.exe -
that is simply a transport).

What I would do is use SetupBuilder to stop the service gracefully (early
in the script before the files are installed).

Then setup a loop where you test to see if the service is still running
(that gives it time to shutdown). If the service does not shutdown nicely
based on a condition in your loop, then you can always force it to shutdown
and again loop and re-test to be sure.

After it is closed, you proceed with the install, then at the end of it you
restart the service.

Does that help?

Charles



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Not really.

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Hi Russ,

100% what Charles said. If your service is running, then the file(s) are
locked and cannot be replaced. It's a good idea to detect running services
from your web update, then stop the service, replace the files, and restart
it (if it was running).

Friedrich

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BTW, the "Edit Service..." function can handle all this.

Friedrich

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Thanks. That makes sense.

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When I stop a service, must I remove it too? Or can I re-start the service
despite updates to the service?

Also, thinking about adding a Wait dialog, but not sure when it closes (if
ever). Unless the whole thing is placed in a LOOP with BREAK and CYCLE.
Something along the lines of:

LOOP
Set Variable %MYService% to FUNCTION:Check Service "This Service" [Is
Running]
If %MyService% Equals "1" Then
Stop Service "This Service"
Wait Dialog: Display "Stopping My Service..."
CYCLE
ELSE
BREAK
END
END

Does the wait dialog close when the LOOP breaks?

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On the "wait" screen - close it yourself (pic attached).

I would "guess" that if the service .EXE has the same name as the original,
you wouldn't need to remove and reinstall it, assuming it runs under the
same user credentials and with the same privileges and just overwrites the
existing file(s). But then, the Universe is littered with my bad guesses
<g>

Other topic - is this "newsgroup at" a good email address at which to reach
you?

Jane

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Jane,

Thanks, but that dialog has me confused. If I select the close option, will
it even display at all? ;-)

The name won't change, so you've confirmed my own guess <g>.

That is actually a non-existent email address. Best bet is to use reggen AT
radfusion DOT com.

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Try playing with the attached.

Jane Fleming

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Jane,

Thanks. I guess I don't understand the Wait function, despite your example.
How does it close? How long does it stay open?

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Russ,

> Thanks. I guess I don't understand the Wait function, despite your example.
> How does it close? How long does it stay open?

If I understand it correctly it stays open until you close it, or the
script ends.

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Not strictly true, Lee.
If you download the example I put together for Russ, you'll see varying
behavior. I open Wait inside a wizard loop and without marking the separate
thread box it closes almost immediately. If I mark it (as in that script),
it closes when I click to the next wizard screen.

I didn't have much time to play, and frankly that's a script function I've
only used in the circumstance I mentioned to Russ - when I need to run a
support file that may take a while to complete.

Jane

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Jane,

> I open Wait inside a wizard loop and without marking the separate

I don't use it that way. the only time I've used it is with a LOOP of
my own. In this use, unless I missed something, I have to explicitly
close it.

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> I have to explicitly close it.

Or drop out of the script since I'm not using a Wizard loop.

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> Or drop out of the script since I'm not using a Wizard loop.

I use it in the PageSnip install while I run the executable for the Tracker
PDFTools Pro Print Driver install.

I set a message, then launch the Tracker installer with command line flags
to run it in the silent mode.

Then when it finishes I close it.


Charles

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Yep. Same thing I do with my USB driver installer.

Jane Fleming

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Russ,

Mashed the button too soon!<g>

Wait Dialog Operation...
Operation of Display sets the initial text
Operation of Update Status Text changes the initial text
Operation of Update Dialog Title changes caption text
Operation of Close, closes the current Wait Dialog

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Thanks! That's making sense.

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Most of my use of the Wait function, BTW, has been while running a
third-party USB driver installer included as a support file, rather than in
any kind of SetupBuilder wizard loop.
So I've opened it when the EXE was invoked and closed it afterwards.

Jane