Clarion 7.2 detection?

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Since installing C7.2 I have had problems with several third party
installs detecting C7.2. They always detect my C6.3 install but not
the C7.2. This makes it difficult to make sure all files are
installed to the correct folders. How is the Clarion version
detected and what can I correct in my registry (or whatever) so my
C7.2 is detected? I've tried reinstalling C7.2 several times, both
from clean installs and installing over the current version.

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Mike,

> Since installing C7.2 I have had problems with several third party
> installs detecting C7.2. They always detect my C6.3 install but not
> the C7.2. This makes it difficult to make sure all files are
> installed to the correct folders. How is the Clarion version
> detected and what can I correct in my registry (or whatever) so my
> C7.2 is detected?

Possibly... but be careful. Check this key with the path in
"InstallLocation":

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Uninstall\{479A07C0-EF05-11DE-6DF1-18371B021649}

And if you break anything, I've never heard of ya!<g>

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Thanks, I'll give it a try! Backup first of course.

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It's all there. I'll keep looking.

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Mike,

> It's all there. I'll keep looking.

If you figure it out PLEASE let me know. I have someone else with the
same problem.

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Mike,

Let's assume, it points to the correct folder. What's the file version and
date of your Clarion.exe?

Friedrich

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Operators are standing by!<g>

Jeff Slarve

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Jeff,

> Operators are standing by!<g>

<g>

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C7.2.7283

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Mike,

Could you also post a screenshot of your c:\Clarion7\bin\clarion.exe version
resource info (right-click, Properties, Details).

But even if this info is correct, if you do not have a C72-aware install
image then you can't detect it.

Friedrich

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> Could you also post a screenshot of your c:\Clarion7\bin\clarion.exe
> version resource info (right-click, Properties, Details).
>
> But even if this info is correct, if you do not have a C72-aware install
> image then you can't detect it.

I bet it is 7.3.0.7280 and not 7.2!

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Here you go!

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Mike,

>
> Here you go!
>

Yes, that's what I thought. It is 7.3.0.7280 version stamped in PE (but
should be 7.2.0.7283). So version-wise, this is Clarion 7.3 and not Clarion
7.2 and SetupBuilder (correctly) did not detect it as Clarion 7.2.

Friedrich

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ditto ...

and I'm running out of dunny paper!

Do I get my meaning across?

So far, it has cost me three days!

Ask me how do I feel!

Jeff Martens

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Hi Mike,

You may also want to look at the 3rd party install you have.

Ours, for example, are distinct for Clarion 6 and Clarion 7. So you can
install a Clarion 6 exe all day, it'll never look for, and hence never find,
Clarion 7.

Also, the Clarion 7 installs were updated for Clarion 7.2. So you need to
make sure your Clarion 7 install is a recent one, which has C7.2 support in
it.

In both cases, with our stuff anyway, these are free downloads.

Cheers
Bruce

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Yes. It's important to note that 3rd-party developers using
Lindersoft's SetupBuilder must explicitly state whether to look for
7.0, 7.1 and 7.2 as disctinct entities. Therefore, you must have a
recent install from them with 7.2 activiated as a search parameter.

Mike Hanson
www.boxsoft.net

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lszip install only detects C6.3 on my system.
Procodeblock detects both C6.3 and C7
A copy of VuMail from Valutilities that I downloaded June 6 detects
both my installs. The updated VuMail that I downloaded yesterday
only detects C6.3.
BoTpl detects both installs.
ABCFree templates detects C7

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> lszip install only detects C6.3 on my system.
> Procodeblock detects both C6.3 and C7
> A copy of VuMail from Valutilities that I downloaded June 6 detects
> both my installs. The updated VuMail that I downloaded yesterday
> only detects C6.3.
> BoTpl detects both installs.
> ABCFree templates detects C7

BTW, I assume the "old" VuMail install was not C72-aware and the new one is.
So the old one "detected" C72 (not really) because it thought it was C71
(both C71 and C72 have the same Product GUID).

I don't think the BoTpl, ABCFree and Procodeblock install images that you
have are C72-aware.

Friedrich

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And another quick one: do you explicitly see "Clarion 7.2" in the installs
that "detect" your Clarion 7 environment?

Friedrich

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I hope your vacation is going kick-ass<g>


Jeff Slarve

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>
>I hope your vacation is going kick-ass<g>
>

Hehehehe ;-)

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

>I don't think the BoTpl, ABCFree and Procodeblock install images that you
have are C72-aware.

Oh yes, -- BoTpl is. Downloaded your latest SB version, as soon as it was
available
and added detection for up to 7.2 <seg> Had to change the script and
Clarion
Detection.

Bo

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Mike,

> Yes. It's important to note that 3rd-party developers using
> Lindersoft's SetupBuilder must explicitly state whether to look for
> 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2 as disctinct entities. Therefore, you must have a
> recent install from them with 7.2 activiated as a search parameter.

In my case the developer does have 7.2 installed and the product
install is solely for 7.2 but doesn't detect it. I posted a test
script in the SB NG and it's as dirt simple as you can get but on this
developers system it fails. Envision is my head banging against a
brick wall!<g>

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Lee,

> In my case the developer does have 7.2 installed and the product
> install is solely for 7.2 but doesn't detect it. I posted a test
> script in the SB NG and it's as dirt simple as you can get but on this
> developers system it fails. Envision is my head banging against a
> brick wall!<g>

Okay, he has C72 installed and the registry points to the Clarion
installation folder. What's the version resource information of the
\Bin\Clarion.exe in his case?

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> Okay, he has C72 installed and the registry points to the Clarion
> installation folder. What's the version resource information of the
> \Bin\Clarion.exe in his case?

I'll ask.

The really odd thing is that I can delete my C7 folder hierarchy and
as long as the registry InstallLocation exists I get detection - even
if it's the WRONG folder. (see image) There's that head against brick
wall thing again!<g>

Any chance this could be a permissions issue for this registry key?

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Lee,

> The really odd thing is that I can delete my C7 folder hierarchy and
> as long as the registry InstallLocation exists I get detection - even
> if it's the WRONG folder. (see image) There's that head against brick
> wall thing again!<g>
>
> Any chance this could be a permissions issue for this registry key?

But that's the bug we fixed. See my answer in the SetupBuilder NG (you
posted a reply to it two days ago):

> Hmm, I fear you are right :-(
>
> If that C71/C72 Product GUID is there and the major file version is not
> 7 -or- if the folder does not exist (and GUID is still there), then it
> reports that Clarion 7.x does exist :-(
>
> Fixed now. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Friedrich

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Hi Lee,

There is a Clarion 7.3.0.7280 out there. So SetupBuilder is correct here
and it is NOT C72 ;-)

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> There is a Clarion 7.3.0.7280 out there.

Yep, PE. SV shipped PE as version 7.3!

>> From: Mike Burris
>> Newsgroups: sv.clarion.clarion7
>> Subject: Re: Update is out
>> Date: 30 Jun 2010 18:49:05 -0400
>>
>> And when you start it, it says: Program Name: Clarion 7.3

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Lee,

>> There is a Clarion 7.3.0.7280 out there.
>
> Yep, PE. SV shipped PE as version 7.3!
>
>>> From: Mike Burris
>>> Newsgroups: sv.clarion.clarion7
>>> Subject: Re: Update is out
>>> Date: 30 Jun 2010 18:49:05 -0400
>>>
>>> And when you start it, it says: Program Name: Clarion 7.3

Yes, I read that message. But I did not expect that even the version
resource is incorrect and is stamped as 7.3.0.7280. I assumed that it was a
code-signing anomaly.

So the only solution I see is to add a dirty workaround to the installer
runtime to handle 7.3.0.7280 as 7.2 (but only for PE).

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> So the only solution I see is to add a dirty workaround to the installer
> runtime to handle 7.3.0.7280 as 7.2 (but only for PE).

Vacation? WHAT vacation?!<g>

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Lee,

>> So the only solution I see is to add a dirty workaround to the installer
>> runtime to handle 7.3.0.7280 as 7.2 (but only for PE).
>
> Vacation? WHAT vacation?!<g>
>

Vacation is for wimps. <bg>

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> Okay, he has C72 installed and the registry points to the Clarion
> installation folder. What's the version resource information of the
> \Bin\Clarion.exe in his case?

PE, 7.3.0.7280 -- now what?!<g>

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Lee,

>> Okay, he has C72 installed and the registry points to the Clarion
>> installation folder. What's the version resource information of the
>> \Bin\Clarion.exe in his case?
>
> PE, 7.3.0.7280 -- now what?!<g>

I'll try to make a maintenance build available on Monday. Then recompile
and you'll see the magic working <g>

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Friedrich,

> I'll try to make a maintenance build available on Monday. Then recompile
> and you'll see the magic working <g>

Someone mentioned that their PE install was 7.2, not 7.3, so maybe SV
posted an updated install and the early bird downloads were messed up.

I can't download PE but if someone with this 7.3 version could rename
their existing install, download the current PE install and run a
binary file compare they could see if the install was changed.

<command prompt>
CD into folder with both installs
FC /B filename1 filename2

If they're different it might be better to reinstall 7.2 PE and see if
the failing 3rd party installs now worked.

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Lee,

> Someone mentioned that their PE install was 7.2, not 7.3, so maybe SV
> posted an updated install and the early bird downloads were messed up.

Yes, that's a good idea. I assume SV fixed the version thing the same day.
And if the version is correct, then SetupBuilder will again detect it as C72
:-)

But who knows how many broken install images are still out there...

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> Yes, that's a good idea. I assume SV fixed the version thing the same day.
> And if the version is correct, then SetupBuilder will again detect it as C72

Guess we'll have to wait and see if anyone can/will test it!<g>

> But who knows how many broken install images are still out there...

If a new install corrects the behavior then that, from my point of
view, would be the correct action to take. The oversight of SV needs
to be fixed, before it causes other problems, not SB.

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Lee,

> If a new install corrects the behavior then that, from my point of
> view, would be the correct action to take. The oversight of SV needs
> to be fixed, before it causes other problems, not SB.

I am adding the "7.3 version fix" to the runtime right now. This should
finally fix it.

Friedrich

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Just downloaded and installed the setup file again.
Same results.

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Mike,

> Just downloaded and installed the setup file again.
> Same results.

Thanks for the follow up.

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Mike,

> Just downloaded and installed the setup file again.
> Same results.

Thanks for the information!

Friedrich

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You know that as soon as you fix this, SV will come out with another
release.

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"as soon as" is an unknown sentence there .....
_now_ is what you Friedrich or I would *do*
but in florida the wether or not depends on another dct it seems


> You know that as soon as you fix this, SV will come out with another
> release.

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Okay, Mister Perfect<g>

Jeff Slarve

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nobody is perfect!

but when you claim you know what to do and wait for others to show you
repeatedly what you have done wrong then you are imperfect ;)

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> You know that as soon as you fix this, SV will come out with another
> release.

I don't think this will happen again to SV :-)

Friedrich

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