Manifest problem

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One of my apps will not run on Server 2008 when I embed the Vista manifest,
as Invoker and UI Access not checked. This app is located in
Clariondataserver\data for later conversion to IPD. It was copied from my
dev pc to the sites 2008 server. If I embed the XP manifest it works. App
was generated in C7/C6 mode. On the Server 2008 which is a quad core
dedicated server the application runs quite slowly. we have oplocks
disabled, caching off and AV not scanning the tps files. It is a brand new
install today using Terminal Services..App works perfectly on XP Pro and
Server 2003. Setup Builder was not used for the install. Am I missing
something? Any ideas where I might look in the morning?
Thanks
Nev

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> One of my apps will not run on Server 2008 when I embed the Vista manifest,
> as Invoker and UI Access not checked. This app is located in
> Clariondataserver\data for later conversion to IPD. It was copied from my
> dev pc to the sites 2008 server. If I embed the XP manifest it works. App
> was generated in C7/C6 mode. On the Server 2008 which is a quad core
> dedicated server the application runs quite slowly. we have oplocks
> disabled, caching off and AV not scanning the tps files. It is a brand new
> install today using Terminal Services..App works perfectly on XP Pro and
> Server 2003. Setup Builder was not used for the install. Am I missing
> something? Any ideas where I might look in the morning?

Hi Nev,

FWIW, we don't embed a manifest from Clarion (instead we keep an external
manifest file in the app folder during development for testing).

We use SetupBuilder to embed a Windows 7 manifest in the app during the
installer compile.

As a result we have no known manifest problems on any OS.


Charles



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G'day Charles
Thanks for that insight. Where do you get your Win7 manifest from or will SB
generate it for you?
Nev

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Nev,

> Thanks for that insight. Where do you get your Win7 manifest from or will SB
> generate it for you?

SB will do it as the install is built.

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Thanks Lee
Just had C7 generate itfor me as an external file to see what it looked
like.
Nev

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> G'day Charles
> Thanks for that insight. Where do you get your Win7 manifest from or will SB
> generate it for you?

Like Lee said, just let SB manifest the file for you.

To get an external manifest for local testing, just take any .manifest file
from a Windows 7 capable exe (search your hard drive and you should find
several) and rename it as executable_name.manifest.

Then when you compile/test you will see the effect of the manifest and when
the app ships (via the installer) it will always be correctly manifested by
SetupBuilder.


Charles



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www.clarionproseries.com - "Get ProPath, make your Clarion programs ready
for Windows 7 and Vista!"
www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
developers - enhanced for SetupBuilder users!"
www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
www.clarionproseries.com - "Serious tools for Clarion Developers"
www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners, Buttons
and Forms!"
www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
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> To get an external manifest for local testing, just take any .manifest file
> from a Windows 7 capable exe (search your hard drive and you should find
> several) and rename it as executable_name.manifest.
>
> Then when you compile/test you will see the effect of the manifest and when
> the app ships (via the installer) it will always be correctly manifested by
> SetupBuilder.

BTW - the external manifest must be in the same folder as the executable.

Charles


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www.clarionproseries.com - "Get ProPath, make your Clarion programs ready
for Windows 7 and Vista!"
www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
developers - enhanced for SetupBuilder users!"
www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
www.clarionproseries.com - "Serious tools for Clarion Developers"
www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners, Buttons
and Forms!"
www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
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Hi Charles,

> FWIW, we don't embed a manifest from Clarion (instead we keep an external
> manifest file in the app folder during development for testing).
>
> We use SetupBuilder to embed a Windows 7 manifest in the app during the
> installer compile.

Icetips Utilities can also generate and embed Vista/Win7 compatible
manifests:) Haven't had any issues with them on any OS either:)

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Thanks Guys
Now have it running ok.
Nev

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> Icetips Utilities can also generate and embed Vista/Win7 compatible
> manifests:) Haven't had any issues with them on any OS either:)

I always try to make Friedrich do all the work<g>

:-)

Charles


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for Windows 7 and Vista!"
www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
developers - enhanced for SetupBuilder users!"
www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
www.clarionproseries.com - "Serious tools for Clarion Developers"
www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners, Buttons
and Forms!"
www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
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Lee
Where do you embed the compiler directive to generate/include the manifest?
Been through the help file but do not see any clear path.
Thanks
Nev

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Found it! I was clicking in the wrong column to open it up.
Nev

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> Found it! I was clicking in the wrong column to open it up.

Perfect :)

Friedrich

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Hi Friedrich
Thanks but I am not sure. Clicked on the line for UAC and the only option
was to set as Invoker etc. The help file pops up a different screen. I am
looking forthe window with pre-processor Embed UAC manifest where you have
the settings for Win7
Need to know where to embed the Directive #Embed UAC Manifest. (SB7)
Thanks
Nev.

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Neville,

> Thanks but I am not sure. Clicked on the line for UAC and the only option
> was to set as Invoker etc. The help file pops up a different screen.

Perhaps you have a completely outdated online help file? It opens the
correct screen here on all machines (using SB7.2 #3062 and Online Help
#3062).

> I am looking forthe window with pre-processor Embed UAC manifest where you
> have the settings for Win7
> Need to know where to embed the Directive #Embed UAC Manifest. (SB7)

There is a very interesting "Manifests - Telling Windows You're Aware" topic
in the "Learning SetupBuilder Part I". See attached screenshot.

You can use the "#embed UAC manifest..." compiler directive wherever you
want. You only have to make sure that you place it before the script adds
the file to the archive using "Install File(s)...". And of course,
code-sign the file AFTER you embedded the manifest. Otherwise, you kill the
signature.

Does this help?

Friedrich

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BTW, the latest online help is: "Help Release: 7.2 Build 3062 (August 27,
2010)"

You can select "Help | Check for Documentation Updates..." in the IDE to
check for the latest online help.

Friedrich

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Thanks Mate
I'll save that later today. Miy docos are definitely out of date.
Nev