A couple of strange SB behaviors

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Friedrich,

I realize the attached screen caps don't tell you much but I thought
I'd send them anyway.

SB-Lockup.PNG
Loaded a script to recompile, no changes, and it locked here. Once I
killed the process I reloaded the script.

SB-OMG!.PNG
The OMG moment I had the second time I tried the compile. Once I
killed the process I opened the script again, 3rd time is lucky, and
it compiled as expected - no errors.

You're just having fun with me, aren't ya?!<g>

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Hi Lee,

> I realize the attached screen caps don't tell you much but I thought
> I'd send them anyway.
>
> SB-Lockup.PNG
> Loaded a script to recompile, no changes, and it locked here. Once I
> killed the process I reloaded the script.
>
> SB-OMG!.PNG
> The OMG moment I had the second time I tried the compile. Once I
> killed the process I opened the script again, 3rd time is lucky, and
> it compiled as expected - no errors.
>
> You're just having fun with me, aren't ya?!<g>

Edvard Korsbæk has the same problem since a very long time (it is not
related to the latest SB7 build, he also had it in SB6).

Unfortunately, there is nothing that we can do because it seems to be
"machine specific" (yeah, of course <g>). I think it is related to a
security software product (e.g. anti-virus or anti-spyware) which "injects"
itself into the sb7.exe (or sb6.exe) compilation process and corrupts the
stack.

Friedrich

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BTW, what protection software are you using?

John Fligg also reported this and it always happens after the MS
Authenticode code-signing.

Try to exclude the sb7.exe from scanning in your anti-virus/anti-spyware
system.

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> BTW, what protection software are you using?

AVG.

> Try to exclude the sb7.exe from scanning in your anti-virus/anti-spyware
> system.

Done.

This was the first time I had seen the OMG stuff. I had the IDE lock
up once before during a compile but a restart always seems to get
things back to normal. Well, normal for ME anyway!<g>

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Lee,

I have also had similar experiences on very rare occasions and have been
unable to reproduce it at will.

I usually end up having to close everything and re-boot the computer to
clear things up. I have never reported this before as I had no way to
duplicate it.

*Regards*,

Lee
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Hi Lee,

> I have also had similar experiences on very rare occasions and have been
> unable to reproduce it at will.
>
> I usually end up having to close everything and re-boot the computer to
> clear things up. I have never reported this before as I had no way to
> duplicate it.

If this happens again, could you please take a screenshot and post it?

Thanks,
Friedrich

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Absolutely.......

*Regards*,

Lee
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Friedrich,

> Unfortunately, there is nothing that we can do

Here's more fodder for the fire...

It happened several times in a row and then I tried something off the
wall that seems to fix it... I saved the script, no changes, and THEN
compiled. Whenever I did this I didn't see the OMG screen. This seems,
at least so far, to work around the problem - whatever it might be.<g>

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Hi Lee,

> Here's more fodder for the fire...
>
> It happened several times in a row and then I tried something off the
> wall that seems to fix it... I saved the script, no changes, and THEN
> compiled. Whenever I did this I didn't see the OMG screen. This seems,
> at least so far, to work around the problem - whatever it might be.<g>

Hmmm, the save process only LOOPS through a QUEUE and writes the data to a
..TPS superfile. It does not FREE any QUEUE nor does it free any other
allocated memory. So in "theory" this should not fix anything <g>.

I hate computers <g>

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> I hate computers <g>

I have a lot of friends that often feel the same way, as do I!<g>

It seems to always happen just as code signing begins. Which EXE is
being used with spc and pvk? Maybe it needs to be ignored by AVG.

All these problems began when I moved from XP(32) to Win7(64) so a lot
of stuff is different now. Do you think reinstalling SB to my XP VM
would make any difference? Grasping at straws!<g>

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Hi Lee,

>> I hate computers <g>
>
> I have a lot of friends that often feel the same way, as do I!<g>

<G>

> It seems to always happen just as code signing begins. Which EXE is
> being used with spc and pvk? Maybe it needs to be ignored by AVG.
>
> All these problems began when I moved from XP(32) to Win7(64) so a lot
> of stuff is different now. Do you think reinstalling SB to my XP VM
> would make any difference? Grasping at straws!<g>

No, I don't think that you have a "bad" install.

The Microsoft Authenticode tool SignCode.exe is called to code-sign files.
And this tool connects to the Internet (if you are using the timestamp
service).

I have never ever seen this problem here on any of our machines. But Edvard
Korsbæk has it since SB6. And it always happens (as far as I can see)
directly after the manifest-embedding and code-signing process (this might
be interpreted as a 'suspicious action' because it changes the PE header of
existing files).

Friedrich

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> Friedrich,
>
>> I hate computers <g>
>
> I have a lot of friends that often feel the same way, as do I!<g>
>
> It seems to always happen just as code signing begins. Which EXE is
> being used with spc and pvk? Maybe it needs to be ignored by AVG.

Lee,

PMFJI, I have found using Signtool.exe with your certificate in a PFX
format seems to make the process go a bit smoother - I did order my
certificate in spc and pvk format - used pvk2pfx.exe to convert it to a PFX
file.

I have most of the vital information, including how to download the
critical files for PFX use in a help topic called Signtool.exe in the CHM
version of the App Data UAC Safe blog.

- Signtool files: signtool.exe, pvk2pfx.exe and capicom.dll

(note: capicom.dll IS necessary for signtool.exe use - easy to obtain and
install)

Product Description - App Data UAC Safe, MFG - Encourager Software
Internet Link - http://profileexchanges.com/blog/?p=120

Also, I include a quick tutorial on using pvk2pfx.exe in the topic, and
references to Jane Fleming's more professional documentation on using the
util as well.

Since signtool.exe is an updated certificate tool by MS, possibly more
anti-virus proof as well.

David

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> Friedrich,
>
>> I hate computers <g>
>
> I have a lot of friends that often feel the same way, as do I!<g>
>
> It seems to always happen just as code signing begins. Which EXE is
> being used with spc and pvk? Maybe it needs to be ignored by AVG.

Lee,

To answer this question specifically -

"Signtool.exe or Signcode.exe

These tools digitally sign files, verifies signatures in files, or time
stamps files.

Signtool.exe - Use a certificate in a PFX format.

Signcode.exe - Use a certificate in spc and pvk file format.

If you received your certificate in spc and pvk file format - Jane Fleming
includes instructions in her documentation to convert a spc file and pvk
file to a singular PFX format using a pvk2pfx program.

If you choose the Windows 7 and Firefox method to receive your certificate
- and following the instructions on the Comodo Browser FAQ page to save
your certificate to a PFX format - to convert this PFX file to spc and pvk
format - use Converting a PFX file to SPC and PVK files instructions.

Suggestion - IF you need to work with both Signtool.exe and Signcode.exe -
Comparing these conversion processes - it might be less difficult for some
to use XP and Internet Explorer to order their certificate in spc and pvk
file format and then use the pvk2pfx program to covert these files to a PFX
file.

However - Signtool.exe is the latest tool - Use a certificate in a PFX
format - and might be the only digital sign file tool you need."

Reference - Code Sign - Order Process help topic - App Data UAC Safe (CHM)
- http://profileexchanges.com/blog/?p=120

David

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