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07-22-2011, 01:58 AM
I'm putting a quote in for a client and I need to build in my time to
learn Setup Builder

1. Straight forward Clarion 6.5 app - to install the exe, dll, and
some other files and run a second exe that will take care of putting
default values in empty tables on an initial install

2. To expand #1 to be able to handle 3 distinct installations of
variants of the program in 3 separates directories and in updates,
remember where those directories where on the initial install

I have experince in installation scripting usinng an old version of
InstallShield and am considering switching to Setup Builder for this
project

Bob R

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07-22-2011, 01:58 AM
Hi Bob,

It should not take long to learn the SetupBuilder basics. As I understand
it, your requirements are very simple.

There is an excellent "Learning SetupBuilder Part I" and Example Projects
available. And you can find interesting information in the mirrored
newsgroups.

http://www.lindersoft.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1

Does this help?

Friedrich

--
Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder is Windows 7 installation -- "point. click. ship"

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

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07-22-2011, 01:59 AM
Hi Bob

From my own experience moving from SB4 to SB6 it took me about a day to
learn enough to move my main product and make an installation. If you
need to do code signing this will increase - again going by memory this
tokk about half a day all in all, counting the time I spent getting the
Comodo certificate.

HTH

Daan Marais

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07-22-2011, 01:04 PM
Hi Bob,

I can only speak from my own experiences but I found switching to
SetupBuilder extremely easy.

My initial requirements were to simply install a few files, register an
ActiveX control and to manipulate the contents of a couple of the installed
files at the end of the process.
From initially installing SetupBuilder to getting my first installer built
was only an afternoon's work.

I've since gone on and added extra functionality to my installers and have
always found the help, examples and forums an excellent source of material
and support.

Basically, to me its a no-brainer. I switched to SetupBuilder and have
never looked back, I can highly recommend it both from a functional point of
view and an ease of use point of view.

Regards,

Andy
www.noyantis.com

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07-22-2011, 01:05 PM
Point. Click. Ship.

That's SetupBuilder!

Markus Zander

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07-22-2011, 01:05 PM
Average intelligence 30 min - 1hr
Member of congress 1 - 3 years

Jim

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07-22-2011, 01:06 PM
Bob,

Setup builder is a huge product. Learning the basics can be just a few
hours, but you can use the product for years and still not know everything.
From what you said, you are trying to create a pretty simple install program
(except that I never heard of Clarion 6.5). You should be able to create an
install that works on the first or second day. But you will probably
enhance it over time.

Recommendations:
1. Straight forward Clarion 6.5 app - to install the exe, dll, and
some other files and run a second exe that will take care of putting
default values in empty tables on an initial install

Use the CSIDL paths for determining where to create your folders and put the
various files. Create a DLL and call it from SB to put the default values
in the empty tables, it is better than calling a separate EXE.

2. To expand #1 to be able to handle 3 distinct installations of
variants of the program in 3 separates directories and in updates,
remember where those directories where on the initial install

There are a couple of ways to do this. The easiest is to allow the user to
change the installation path. The better way is to have a window in the
install program where the user chooses an installation type and then you set
the folder for them.

Regards,
Abe

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07-22-2011, 01:07 PM
I forgot. One of the example shows you how to retrieve the prior version's
install folder.

Abe Jimenez

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07-22-2011, 01:07 PM
To learn SB takes about a day, maybe an afternoon. To master it...<g>.

Seriously, simple installs (Vista+ standards) with code signing from scratch can
take a couple of hours if you never saw SB before. Not that it really takes that
long, but once you start using it, you find better ways to do something <g>. An
experienced SB user will spend maybe about 10 minutes on a new project.

--
Russell B. Eggen
www.radfusion.com

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07-22-2011, 01:08 PM
Bob,

Please send me an email.

Jane at beachbunnysoftware dot com

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07-23-2011, 02:43 AM
To be able to effectively USE setupbuilder, I would suggest 1 to 2 hours.

But as it is so extensible, you could take 10 hours studying the docs and
experimenting and then you could make it sing and dance.

John Griffiths