Move SetupBuilder to new computer.

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Replacing my old Vista32 with new Win7 Pro 64 and need to move SetupBuilder
to the new machine. What is the best way/where to download etc.

I hate getting new machines, it's always a headache.

Don Harvey
Mo-Ark Truck Svcs

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Hey Don,

If you are going to be doing development with C6.x you'll need to run it in a virtual machine running a 32 bit IS. Which means you'll have to install SetupBuilder in the virtual machine in order to build your installs.

Something to keep in mind.

Ben E. Brady

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Hi Ben,

Working on that. Until I can figure out whether or not this machine
supports virtualization going to move everything over to the new machine
except C6. I assume I can continue to create or change an exe then copy it
over to the new machine and have setupbuilder build and ftp it.

Of course it is always something that puts a crimp in things. I bought this
machine specifically because it came with Win7 Pro and I would then have XP
Mode in a virtual window, but having problems setting virtualization, one
test from Gibson Research says it does, another program says it doesn't, so
testing VMPlayer, no joy yet.

Terrific buy on the machine - then again not :) This 5 year old Vista32 is
starting to get a little flakey.

Don Harvey

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> Of course it is always something that puts a crimp in things. I bought this
> machine specifically because it came with Win7 Pro and I would then have XP
> Mode in a virtual window, but having problems setting virtualization, one
> test from Gibson Research says it does, another program says it doesn't, so
> testing VMPlayer, no joy yet.

Look in the BIOS Don.

Most PCs (from what I have seen) that support it still have it turned off
there.

Since your playing with a new PC, consider this:

I have EVERYTHING running in VM's ( using Virtualbox ).

The host OS is Windows 7/64.

It has Acronis TrueImage setup on it so I can back it up and it has
Virtualbox on it. Nothing more.

I work in two main VMs.

One is Windows 7 (where I do the normal work) and the other is a XP Pro VM
( where I run C6 and older apps ). The XP one has the Intel Sata Manager
installed and it is set to use a Sata controller (does wonders for
performance on XP).

I run the VMs at full screen (so either is like working on a dedicated PC)
and can easily switch between them if needed.

I do have a common partition on the host drive where I can transfer files
between VMs if needed as well as an external Sata drive.


Now the best part...

I can move to a new PC (or a replacement hard drive if needed) by simply
formatting the new drive with Windows 7/64 to get rid of the junk,
installing Virtualbox and Acronis, then restoring my VM image backups.

TaDa ... moved to a new PC ... DONE!!!!

Nothing to reinstall - EVER AGAIN - no lost time or data - NO PAIN!

Friedrich put me onto this some time ago and it has been the best thing I
have ever done for productivity!

:-)

Charles


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Hi Charles,

That is what I thought about a machine that would already have Win7 Pro
installed, but I have gone thru the BIOS settings and it is no where to be
found. The Processor is an AMD E-350. One suggestion I found was to change
from AHCI to IDE but reluctant to try that and risk screwing up Win7.

Next option I found was to set up VMPlayer with these instructions.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/10911/run-xp-mode-on-windows-7-machines-without-hardware-virtualization/

Still hangs looking for the virtual drive. I haven't tried VirtualBox yet.

I agree - virtualization is the way to go these days - now if I can just get
it work :)

Don Harvey

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> That is what I thought about a machine that would already have Win7 Pro
> installed, but I have gone thru the BIOS settings and it is no where to be
> found. The Processor is an AMD E-350. One suggestion I found was to change
> from AHCI to IDE but reluctant to try that and risk screwing up Win7.

I don't think you need to change the setting from AHCI to IDE and it could
very well screw up the Windows 7 install.


Look in the BIOS for a setting called "SVM" and enable that.

SVM means “Secure Virtual Machine” support.

Here is a link on it:
http://srikrishnadas.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/amd-v-on-amd-e-350-zacate/



> Next option I found was to set up VMPlayer with these instructions.
>
> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/10911/run-xp-mode-on-windows-7-machines-without-hardware-virtualization/
>
> Still hangs looking for the virtual drive. I haven't tried VirtualBox yet.

Any VM software without hardware virtualization is going to suck badly in
my experience.


> I agree - virtualization is the way to go these days - now if I can just get
> it work :)

Good luck!

Let us know how it goes.


Charles



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Charles Edmonds
www.clarionproseries.com - ProScan, ProImage, ProPath and other Clarion
developer tools!
www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
developers - enhanced for SetupBuilder users!"
www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners, Buttons
and Forms - Now with PNG support!
www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
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Actually, I map a drive from my Clarion VM to the host machine and use a
batch file to copy the compiled stuff to the host.

SetupBuilder runs on the host.

So I just keep one SB instance current on the host OS regardless whether I'm
using it for a c6 or c8 project (or anything else).

Download the current installef from the page on the setupbuilder.com website
and just dig up your latest email with the serial number and support key.

As David said, you'll need to copy your code-signing tools as well.

Jane

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Thanks Jane,

That was the route I was going. Since C6 is the only app that needs 32 bit
going to move everything except it until I can get the virtual XP mode
working (hopefully).

Don Harvey

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> Replacing my old Vista32 with new Win7 Pro 64 and need to move SetupBuilder
> to the new machine. What is the best way/where to download etc.

Don,

Here's one tip! If you are using - signtool.exe - Use a code sign
certificate in a PFX format - with SetupBuilder - be sure and follow the
advice in the help topic - Signtool.exe in the CHM version of this blog.

Some "forget" that capicom.dll - must be installed and registered on the
new computer - all the important signtool.exe and associated files and
download locations are discussed in the help topic.

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David

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Testing this XPMode - think I got it - life is good :)

Don Harvey

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did you download the xp mode from MS. you need to have that

Jim

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Yes, going to try VirtualBox today and also contact HP to make sure
virtualization is going to work on this machine.

Don Harvey

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Hi Don,

> Replacing my old Vista32 with new Win7 Pro 64 and need to move SetupBuilder
> to the new machine. What is the best way/where to download etc.

Have your maintenance plan handy, then Download from Lindersoft and install.
That's pretty much it.

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