Windows 8 Consumer Preview is out for download!

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All,

Windows 8 Consumer Preview is out for download. We are busy downloading the
64-bit (x64) version.

We will start testing the new Windows 8 functionality in SetupBuilder 7.7
tomorrow. The upcoming SetupBuilder 7.7 provides enhanced support for
Windows 8.

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Friedrich,

> Windows 8 Consumer Preview is out for download. We are busy downloading the
> 64-bit (x64) version.

Their servers are getting slammed! Poor servers!<g>

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Lee,

>
> Their servers are getting slammed! Poor servers!<g>
>

I agree 100% <g>. Several thousand people try to download the small 3.33GB
Windows 8 consumer preview at the same time and their servers can't handle
the load. What the hell is going on with you Microsoft <bg>. That's really
not a good start...

40 min 30 secs left, transfer rate 985KB/Sec. I hope download will not
interrupt :-)

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> 40 min 30 secs left, transfer rate 985KB/Sec. I hope download will not
> interrupt :-)

Maybe I should not tell you I already have my ISO burning... but then
I suppose I've already told ya?!<g>

Apparently locality has it's benefits. Dang, probably shouldn't have
said that either. Sorry, my bad!<lol>

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Lee,

> Maybe I should not tell you I already have my ISO burning... but then
> I suppose I've already told ya?!<g>

DON'T SAY THAT TO ME <vbg>

> Apparently locality has it's benefits. Dang, probably shouldn't have
> said that either. Sorry, my bad!<lol>

<LOL> 11 min 30 secs left, transfer rate 1.00MB/Sec. Oh Lord of the
Internet, no interruptions, please! <g>.

Friedrich

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If everyone would please pause their downloads so Friedrich can complete his
faster...

Thank you!

<vbg>

Russell B. Eggen
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> If everyone would please pause their downloads so Friedrich can complete
> his faster...
>
> Thank you!
>
> <vbg>

<VBG> Win8 downloaded successfully! :-)

Friedrich

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See? Its not what you know, its *who* you know! ;-)

Russell B. Eggen
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>
> See? Its not what you know, its *who* you know! ;-)
>

Yes <g> ;-)

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> <LOL> 11 min 30 secs left, transfer rate 1.00MB/Sec. Oh Lord of the
> Internet, no interruptions, please! <g>.

I could email a copy if you want.<g>

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>
> I could email a copy if you want.<g>
>

Thank you for the kind offer, but no <g> I have my own copy now <vbg>

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> > I could email a copy if you want.<g>
> Thank you for the kind offer, but no <g> I have my own copy now <vbg>

I had to make the offer!<g>



For anyone burning a DVD that needs an install key...
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/faq#section_1>

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>> > I could email a copy if you want.<g>
>> Thank you for the kind offer, but no <g> I have my own copy now <vbg>
>
> I had to make the offer!<g>

<BG>

BTW, that Windows 8 release is impressive (IMO). Oh boy, so many things to
learn and test and change now... And I always forget they have "killed" the
Start button that has resided in the lower-left since Windows 95.

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> BTW, that Windows 8 release is impressive (IMO).

We will have to agree to disagree.<g> Very unimpressed since learning
where MS hid stuff in Vista/7 and now it's worse since they moved
stuff, yet again, because they can.

The leaning curve will be rather steep and I know a LOT of folks that
won't be able to climb that hill. Above all else MS needs to add an
option to go directly to the desktop and reinstate the "start" menu so
things can be found... like PROGRAMS!<g>

No time to play. Back to XP-Pro and C6.3 for paying work.

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> Maybe I should not tell you I already have my ISO burning... but then
> I suppose I've already told ya?!<g>

Okay, Lee. But I already have the the Visual Studio 11 Pro beta. And you?
<vbg>

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> Okay, Lee. But I already have the the Visual Studio 11 Pro beta. And you?
> <vbg>

Ya got me!<g>

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Are you going to install that on your Win8 machine?

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Hi Jeff,

>
> Are you going to install that on your Win8 machine?
>

I have installed Win8 as a VMWare 8.0.2 virtual machine (fresh install) and
going to install Visual Studio 11 on that Win8 machine later today. I have
downloaded VS2011 Pro but noticed that Ultimate is also available. Busy
downloading Ultimate right now. On Facebook, Arnór reported that VS2011
also seems to work on Windows 7.

Friedrich

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Related to this?
http://slashdot.org/story/12/02/29/153226/microsofts-azure-cloud-suffers-major-downtime?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter

> What the hell is going on with you Microsoft <bg>. That's really
>not a good start...

Jeff Slarve
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I'm still managing a combined 4MB/sec for the 64-bit and 32-bit
downloads, which isn't too shabby, albeit only 1/10 of my pipe. <g>
When you consider the number of people that must be hammering it, it's
pretty impressive.

Mike Hanson
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I see.

Bob Campbell

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Thanks Friedrich,

Installing it now...

Skip

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Yes, I know what you mean. I already invested a huge amount of time in
research and development work for Win8. And still so many things to do (and
to learn). Perhaps we need a series of ClarionMag articles to cover all the
new stuff and changes <g>.

Friedrich

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Friedrich,

> Perhaps we need a series of ClarionMag articles to cover all the
> new stuff and changes <g>.

You better get started on those articles!!!<g>

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Dave will probably crank out a book on it shortly<g>

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> BTW, that Windows 8 release is impressive (IMO). Oh boy, so many things to
> learn and test and change now... And I always forget they have "killed" the
> Start button that has resided in the lower-left since Windows 95.

Does it replace the existing OS on the computer you download to?

Tony Tetley

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Tony,

> Does it replace the existing OS on the computer you download to?

Install it into its own VM... it can't be uninstalled!

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As I feared. Next machine I buy.

Russell B. Eggen
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In a VM for a BM in the AM or the PM<g>

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Jeff,

> In a VM for a BM in the AM or the PM<g>

INDEED!

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>In a VM for a BM in the AM or the PM<g>


well FM, that's awsome. <g>

John

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Yes. Unless you create a VM.

But behind the scenes (aka the full-screen Start menu), it's very much a
Windows 7 desktop, without the Start button.

The Windows key (like in Windows 7) lets you switch between the Start menu
and the desktop, almost like switching between Windows 7 and Windows 8.

If you have a Windows 7 computer, not a Windows XP or a Windows Vista
computer upgraded with Windows 7, then it seems kind of obvious it will run
Windows 8 without issues.

So where is the Start menu? It seems like it's there but hidden. It's like
the Locator field on a browse screen. You don't have to display the Locator
field to have it work.

You just start typing, as you would in the Windows 7 Start menu Search box,
and it pops open the search panel and the results for you. It's very nice.
For example, just type Run or Cmd.

There's just one difference, as you start typing, and you realize you're not
getting results, you can choose between Apps, Settings or Files. Like trying
to open the Control Panel or Printers. Control Panel is under Apps, while
Devices and Printers is under Settings. The search results are nicely
displayed on a touch screen.

I'd say jump in, in particular if you have an extra Windows 7 computer that
isn't your main computer.

Have fun. This is a nice OS.

Bob

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Hi everyone,

There are some differences in these two windows.
In the lower left corner of each, it shows the server (computer) name.

One window has rounded corners (in particular, those buttons in the upper
right corner) and the title is on the left.

One window has a nice outline of the sheet and tabs;
the other has bleed-through from the background.

The Bob-1 computer is running Windows 7 SP1 (64-bit);
the Bob-3 computer is running Windows 8 Consumer Preview (64-bit).

Bob

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Bob,

> There are some differences in these two windows.
> In the lower left corner of each, it shows the server (computer) name.
>
> One window has rounded corners (in particular, those buttons in the upper
> right corner) and the title is on the left.
>
> One window has a nice outline of the sheet and tabs;
> the other has bleed-through from the background.
>
> The Bob-1 computer is running Windows 7 SP1 (64-bit);
> the Bob-3 computer is running Windows 8 Consumer Preview (64-bit).

Very, VERY, nice!!!!!

Friedrich

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Four different Windows Server 8 and Windows 8 machines up and running. Say
goodbye to the weekend(s) ...

LOOP
Learn()
Test()
Change()
END

Friedrich

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Nah! You need a better LOOP

LOOP
Learn()
Test()
Change()
HaveSomeWine() !Can cause stack corruption if LOOP goes on
END

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Amazing. A mere 24 hours after it was first launched, the Microsoft Windows
8 Consumer Preview has crossed a million downloads. That equates to a quite
staggering three and a half petabytes (PB) of data. Impressive...

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If they remove all the downloads done by Fredrich then what happens ?

<VBG>

BTW : I am VERY pleased to see that DMC version works (nearly
flawlessly) under Windows 8 !!!

The ONLY "drawback" is that all "small modules" which have in code a
CAPTION defined so as to have the MDI "move around" possibility LOOSE
this and have NO Title so NO "moving around".

BTW : How do you CLOSE Windows 8 ?????? 8-o
No button no right click ??? a lost "old time dev"

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Hi JP,

> BTW : How do you CLOSE Windows 8 ?????? 8-o
> No button no right click ??? a lost "old time dev"

You have several different options ;-) See attached screenshots.

For example, move the mouse to the lower left corner. In the Start-menu
click on "Settings". On the right sidebar click on "Power" and then on
"Shut down".

Friedrich

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I forgot : (stupid me)

the SetupBuilder dev version latest build installer did NOT require ANY
change to _perfectly work_ (of course i'll need to add the w8
compatibility etc) but Fredrich you are the BEST (as usual)

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I do not have that "start" button ....

How do I <g> (sorry) leave the settings huge screen with no possibility
to do anything else ?

Learning curve ....

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> BTW : I am VERY pleased to see that DMC version works (nearly flawlessly)
> under Windows 8 !!!

Cool! That is very good news!!!

Friedrich

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Hi JP,

> I forgot : (stupid me)
>
> the SetupBuilder dev version latest build installer did NOT require ANY
> change to _perfectly work_ (of course i'll need to add the w8
> compatibility etc) but Fredrich you are the BEST (as usual)

<G> Thank you :-)

Yes, the latest SetupBuilder 7.6 already generates Win8-aware installations.
And the upcoming SetupBuilder 7.7 improves this again (e.g. lets you make
your own app Win8-aware, detects .NET Framework 4.5, etc.).

Friedrich

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Hi JP,

>
>I do not have that "start" button ....
>

It's there when you "hover" over the bottom-left corner of the screen.

> How do I <g> (sorry) leave the settings huge screen with no possibility to
> do anything else ?

Are you using the correct screen resolution?

Friedrich

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Not here (another JP special it seems) <g>

There is a "space" there but no "start"

Resolution set by vmWare

anyway ... it is a release candidate for all users (1 Mil) EXCEPT JP
:-?

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Hi JP,

> Not here (another JP special it seems) <g>
>
> There is a "space" there but no "start"
>
> Resolution set by vmWare
>
> anyway ... it is a release candidate for all users (1 Mil) EXCEPT JP
> :-?

I think I got confused myself. Too many VM running a at the same time
(Developer Preview, Consumer Preview, Server 8) <g>.

See attached screenshot. "Hover" over the bottom-RIGHT corner of the screen
and you should see this.

Friedrich

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Then this:

Friedrich

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all this works perfectly

It is just when I use the "desktop" that the "start" button does not
show

anyway.... Michael Gould has the same version as I have hehehe

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JP,

> It is just when I use the "desktop" that the "start" button does not
> show

There isn't one in 8 which, from my point of view, has the potential
to put a lot of folks off upgrading from 7.

You now have a "Start Page" which you can get to using the windows
button on your keyboard. I believe the folks at Redmond drank the
Kool-Aid and forgot about business workstations. The touchy-feely
screen concept is fine for handhelds but sucks for desktops.

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agreed

To close now I need to :
1. hover the mouse on the right side
2. select the settings icon
3. select the power icon
4. click on close down

VERY user friendly indeed!

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You're not supposed to shut it off, silly! <g>

Mike Hanson
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> You have several different options ;-) See attached screenshots.
>
> For example, move the mouse to the lower left corner. In the Start-menu
> click on "Settings". On the right sidebar click on "Power" and then on
> "Shut down".

Much easier to just press the Power button on the computer :)

It appears that Windows 8 isn't meant to be turned off, ever.

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Shut it down the same way as for Vista or Win 7 or....

Hold the Windows key and tap R to bring up the Run box.

cmd [enter]

At the command prompt, type
shutdown -s -t 0
and hit [enter]

Jane Fleming

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RESET is easier

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Maybe for you.
But since I always have a command prompt window open... my way is easier <g>

Jane Fleming

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And people were complaining that it was a slow download. <g>

I guess there aren't many who remember that downloading early versions
of Internet Explorer used to take 12 hours via modem.

Mike Hanson
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Frank Sinatra!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIXg9KUiy00

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Hi JP,

> To close now I need to :
> 1. hover the mouse on the right side
> 2. select the settings icon
> 3. select the power icon
> 4. click on close down
>
> VERY user friendly indeed!

Or compile the attached SetupBuilder "bye.sb7" script into a SetupBuilder
application (non-elevated) and use the resulting "bye.exe" to shut-down your
Win8 machine <g>.

Friedrich

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lol

SB rescues W8 !!!
(for old aged users not accustomed to mouse clicking)

8-o

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That's fancier than a *.cmd file. <g>

Mike Hanson
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>
> That's fancier than a *.cmd file. <g>
>

<G>

FRiedrich

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Is it as fast as unplugging?<g>

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