SV: 10309 install buglet

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Mirrored from the SoftVelocity Clarion 9 Newsgroup (Thread started: 08/10/2013)

Apparently the prerequisite is not being checked before having to be
installed since it's already there and multiple starts of the install,
even after it's been run<g>, still requests it.

Lee White

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> Apparently the prerequisite is not being checked before having to be
> installed since it's already there and multiple starts of the install,
> even after it's been run<g>, still requests it.
>
Lee,

Just installed the update and didn't see that.

All went smoothly but, then, it is Friday night.

Bob

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Hi Bob,

I wonder if Lee was thinking of the ClaRunExtSetup.exe program rather
than the Clarion install itself?

As a side note that's the second time I've tried to 'close' his
screendump using the buttons, they just draw me in like a moth to a
flame :-)

Graham

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Graham,

> I wonder if Lee was thinking of the ClaRunExtSetup.exe program rather
> than the Clarion install itself?

Nope, just the install.

I did uninstall the previous build but I had that C++ RT before that.

> As a side note that's the second time I've tried to 'close' his
> screendump using the buttons, they just draw me in like a moth to a
> flame :-)

Happy to help whenever possible!<g>

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Lee,

One other thing I noticed: on my test VM using XP SP3, the Microsoft
..NET Framework 2.0 SP1 is never installed using the new ClaRunExtSetup
included in Clarion 9.0.10309. I saw the same behavior in my own
SetupBuilder 8.0 test installer I was testing the other day.

Turns out the current SB 8.0 rt_dotnetframework2_x86.sbi script has a
specific check if running XP for SP2 (probably because the Microsoft
System Requirements states it is specific to XP SP2), so it doesn't try
to install it if running XP SP3.

! If XP, SP2 is required
If %WINVER% Equals "$WIN_XP$" Then
If %SERVICEPACKNUMBER% Does Not Equal "2" Then
Set Variable %DOTNET2_INSTALLIT% to "-1000"
End
End


So SV might want to look at that for the next iteration of their
ClaRunExtSetup. I changed own rt_dotnetframework2_x86.sbi script to:

! If XP, SP2 or greater is required
If %WINVER% Equals "$WIN_XP$" Then
If %SERVICEPACKNUMBER% Less Than "2" Then
Set Variable %DOTNET2_INSTALLIT% to "-1000"
End
End

Though I'm not sure how that would behave if no service pack was
installed--maybe it returns 0 for that case, but I don't have a vm setup
to test for that. Of course if you are running XP with no service packs
then there are probably bigger issues to deal with :-)

Bottom line is users with XP SP3 won't be able to use the ClaRunExtSetup
shipped with Clarion 9.0.10309 to get the Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
SP1 installed. (But they can download it directly from

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=16614 )

And at least in my little 512MB RAM XP SP3 virtual machine, the install
of Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 takes just under 8 minutes, so be
patient.


....jack

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Jack,

> And at least in my little 512MB RAM XP SP3 virtual machine, the install
> of Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 takes just under 8 minutes, so be
> patient.

In my case this is on Win7/64 and the core C9 install prerequisite
already exists but it still wants to install it over and over again!

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Lee,

I think I know what is causing this (seems to be related to a recent OS
update). The x86 MS runtime (running in 32-bit mode) installed on a x64
system write to different registry branches (32-/64-bit) now.

I have to change some things in the SetupBuilder 8.1 runtime and update the
redistributable packages to handle this new scenario. Not easy to handle...

Can I send some small test apps (compiled with SB8.1) later this week?

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Feel free to send them to me, Friedrich. BTW, just like Lee, I get
the redundant request to install the runtimes. I'm running Windows
7/64.

Mike Hanson
www.boxsoft.net

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Mike,

> Feel free to send them to me, Friedrich. BTW, just like Lee, I get
> the redundant request to install the runtimes. I'm running Windows
> 7/64.

HEY! Back off, this is MY bug! <g>

Lee White

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So fix it already, will ya?

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>Mike,
>
>> Feel free to send them to me, Friedrich. BTW, just like Lee, I get
>> the redundant request to install the runtimes. I'm running Windows
>> 7/64.
>
>HEY! Back off, this is MY bug! <g>

I'm going to make pasta tonight with some gently fried veg, garlic and
olive oil. <wink>

Mike Hanson
www.boxsoft.net

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Mike,

> I'm going to make pasta tonight with some gently fried veg, garlic and
> olive oil. <wink>

You folks up there are strange.... fried olive oil! What's next?!<g>

Lee White

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I think they make that at Popeyes

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Jeff,

> I think they make that at Popeyes

Wonder how many will get that one?!<g>

Lee White

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Hi Lee,

I did, I did!!

Gregory Bailey

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Oy



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Here she is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM7rB_ecU4E

Jeff Slarve
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>I think they make that at Popeyes

Q: Which part of Popeye never gets rusty?





A: The part he dips in Olive Oil.

John Griffiths

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Friedrich,

> Can I send some small test apps (compiled with SB8.1) later this week?

Sure.

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>Oyl
>
>
>
>Steve Parker
>------------------------
>www.par2.com
>-----------------------
>"The difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer;
>miracles, by appointment only."
>
>
>"Lee White (Lodestar Software)" wrote in message
>news:u8pn19to7j04ggqq5ftdh70ljnputnq2ge@cwaddons.c om...
>
>Jeff,
>
>> I think they make that at Popeyes
>
>Wonder how many will get that one?!<g>
>

Jeff Slarve
www.jssoftware.com
www.twitter.com/jslarve
I'll search help files & Google for you.

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Vey

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RADFusion International, LLC

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> Feel free to send them to me, Friedrich. BTW, just like Lee, I get
> the redundant request to install the runtimes. I'm running Windows
> 7/64.

Thank you, Mike! I'll send a test application soon (the app will not make
any system modification!). The changes in the OS and the MS redistributable
unpacking method are very tricky. But I think that I have a working
solution now.

Friedrich

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BTW, quick background information. Microsoft changed "the rules" in the
redistributables and that's why this problem comes up (at the moment for
some users only, but in the near future for all). It depends on the OS
patch level (installed updates and components). What a nightmare. We have
to revamp the SetupBuilder MS redistributable model (will be part of SB
8.1).

Friedrich

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>> Can I send some small test apps (compiled with SB8.1) later this week?
>
> Sure.

Perfect, thanks Lee!

Friedrich

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I feel your pain. It's like having the rug pulled out from beneath
you.

Mike Hanson
www.boxsoft.net

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> I feel your pain. It's like having the rug pulled out from beneath
> you.

YES!!!!

Friedrich