WARNING: Fraudulent Transactions and Keygen

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Hi,

at the moment, we are under heavy fraudulent purchase attack and two warez
groups have released "keygens" for SetupBuilder. Well, I don't know why <g>
but some users have downloaded and launched the "keygen.exe" and of course,
their system is toast now because the programs are virus infected. What a
surprise!

So please, instead of using a malicious keygen.exe from the dark side of the
Internet, please contact our Sales at sales@lindersoft.com if your
SetupBuilder maintenance and support subscription plan expired or if you
would like to license a new version of SetupBuilder.

And no, I don't know how to remove the keygen.exe virus from the system.

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They need their nuts cut off, if they have any

Dan

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I'd cut the bolts and leave the nuts hanging loose .....

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Congrats Friedrich!

Welcome to the big leagues. It's affirmation that you've got an amazing
product on your hands.

Now to deal with the riff-raff :-)

Pratik

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ditto

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Dangit.

Jeff Slarve
www.jssoftware.com
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I'll search help files & Google for you.

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>
> They need their nuts cut off, if they have any
>

I would like to cut their testicles off using a blunted bread knife. These
fraudulent purchase orders are a support nightmare right now.

And on top of this there are crazy people calling because they tried to
steal our product with a virus-infected tool from various Warez sites and
now their computer is toast. But instead of shutting their mouth they are
asking me for help? WTF? I did not develop the tools (keygen.exe) that
claim to generate serial numbers and licenses for SetupBuilder. I have a
family to feed...I have a business to run. What are these guys smoking?
They shouldn't use a keygen.exe that sends their computers to hell but
instead use their own credit card to buy a license. Oh boy, where are my
pills?

Friedrich

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They're getting to you.

Maybe just get their phone number and enter it here

http://www.prankdial.com/browse

Jeff Slarve
www.jssoftware.com
www.twitter.com/jslarve
I'll search help files & Google for you.

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I think you would be well served if you home page had a small blurb in
red letters about this attack and warning potential customers.
Something like:

Using keygen? Please click here for important information!

Then a page from the above link explaining how dangerous it is to use
such devices/programs and you don't publish nor condone such practices.
You'd at least be covering your side in case someone decides to not
listen to reason and get "uppity".

JAT,

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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC

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Very good idea!

Thanks,
Friedrich

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> I think you would be well served if you home page had a small blurb in
> red letters about this attack and warning potential customers.
> Something like:
>
> Using keygen? Please click here for important information!
>
> Then a page from the above link explaining how dangerous it is to use
> such devices/programs and you don't publish nor condone such practices.
> You'd at least be covering your side in case someone decides to not
> listen to reason and get "uppity".

OTOH you are "seeding" an idea to go and look for a keygen into the minds
of some people that never realized one might exist if you do that.

Charles


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> OTOH you are "seeding" an idea to go and look for a keygen into the minds
> of some people that never realized one might exist if you do that.

Hmmm... Also true.... Good point.

Friedrich

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My thoughts exactly. Had no idea and now I do. Sounds like a bad idea to
me.

J André Labuschagné

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You can tell someone "Don't stick your tongue in that light socket!" and
walk out of the room too.

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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC

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> You can tell someone "Don't stick your tongue in that light socket!" and
> walk out of the room too.


Sure Russ.

The point is - WHY put the idea in someone's head that things like Keygen's
even exist?

A lot of developers are blissfully unaware of such things and happily pay
for developer tools instead of being tempted to get something for nothing.

Charles


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Charles,

> A lot of developers are blissfully unaware of such things and happily pay
> for developer tools instead of being tempted to get something for nothing.

And even still, without the knowledge, software is pirated.

Knowing it's out there does not invite use and not knowing does not
prevent piracy.

Honesty is honesty and those that are, are. In contrast those that
aren't probably rarely, if ever, are.

I used to routinely search the Internet for the internal key that
makes by unlocks work. That's the part that doesn't change except from
version to version. On the rare occasion that I've found that data
I've also found the public key bits that are needed for its use. THOSE
I look up in my database and now I know the apparent purchaser of the
software.

That said I rarely ever do those searches any longer preferring the
way I feel without the worry and stress. You can't prevent theft but
you can slow it and also not let it worry you - life is too short!<g>

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> Knowing it's out there does not invite use and not knowing does not
> prevent piracy.

No more than putting a sign in your yard saying that there are no firearms
on the premise I guess<g>.


> Honesty is honesty and those that are, are. In contrast those that
> aren't probably rarely, if ever, are.

I agree.

But there is still no good reason to put something out that only attracts
turd flies...


> I used to routinely search the Internet for the internal key that
> makes by unlocks work. That's the part that doesn't change except from
> version to version. On the rare occasion that I've found that data
> I've also found the public key bits that are needed for its use. THOSE
> I look up in my database and now I know the apparent purchaser of the
> software.

We do some similar things.


> That said I rarely ever do those searches any longer preferring the
> way I feel without the worry and stress. You can't prevent theft but
> you can slow it and also not let it worry you - life is too short!<g>

No argument there.

But that still does not make me want to even put the idea of keygens out
there.

There are developers who get into a bind once and a while and might "bend"
the rules (fully intending on buying a legit copy after they build the next
great software and get rich).

A person like that might not even be aware of the dangers of downloading
keygens or unlocked copies, so IMHO it would be irresponsible of me to even
lead them into temptation a little bit.

At the end of the day, I just don't see a legit reason to advertise that a
keygen for a product even exists. It only helps (and elevates the status
of) the bad guys.

Just my $.02

Charles

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Charles Edmonds

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www.clarionproseries.com - ProScan, ProImage, ProPath and other Clarion
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www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
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www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners, Buttons
and Forms - Now with PNG support!
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www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
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Forewarned is fore armed. Lack of knowledge is dangerous.

If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. :-)

>
> The point is - WHY put the idea in someone's head that things like Keygen's
> even exist?

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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC

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> Lack of knowledge is dangerous.
>
> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. :-)

I bow to your expertise in that area.

Charles


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Charles Edmonds

cjeByteMeSpammers@lansrad.com (remove the "ByteMeSpammers" to email me)
www.clarionproseries.com - ProScan, ProImage, ProPath and other Clarion
developer tools!
www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
developers - enhanced for SetupBuilder users!"
www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners, Buttons
and Forms - Now with PNG support!
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ROFL!

J André Labuschagné

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Charles,

> I bow to your expertise in that area.

Ouch!<g>

Lee White

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> I bow to your expertise in that area.

LOL
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See? Even *I* can teach you something <g>

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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC

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> See? Even *I* can teach you something <g>

Indeed.

Things like there are times when you should just take your (self inflicted)
lump quietly and let it go ... but you don't<g>.

Once again I bow to your expertise and have noted for the record your
ongoing example of self-abuse.


Have you ever considered moving to Colorado?

At least there whatever it is your smoking would be legal<g>.

:-)

Charles


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Charles Edmonds

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www.clarionproseries.com - ProScan, ProImage, ProPath and other Clarion
developer tools!
www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
developers - enhanced for SetupBuilder users!"
www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners, Buttons
and Forms - Now with PNG support!
www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
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NO, NO, NO! Tennessee, go to Tennessee Russ! They like TP'ers there.

;)

Ramón Reed

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LOL

J André Labuschagné

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> NO, NO, NO! Tennessee, go to Tennessee Russ! They like TP'ers there.

Never going to happen.

We have Russ's photo posted at the border!

:-)

Charles


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Charles Edmonds

cjeByteMeSpammers@lansrad.com (remove the "ByteMeSpammers" to email me)
www.clarionproseries.com - ProScan, ProImage, ProPath and other Clarion
developer tools!
www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
developers - enhanced for SetupBuilder users!"
www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners, Buttons
and Forms - Now with PNG support!
www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
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This is really not a forum for such exchanges as the replies that follow
show.

Let's keep this professional please.

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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC

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Don't stick your tongue in the light socket.

Jeff Slarve
www.jssoftware.com
www.twitter.com/jslarve
I'll search help files & Google for you.

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It's at the Post Office here - Top Ten Least Wanted. :)

Ramón Reed