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12-08-2014, 09:59 AM
I understand MS has to be all things to all people, but when installing
an update on a SSD based system takes a good deal longer than a couple
of minutes, you have to ask "What are they doing?"

Bet it would go a lot faster if they used SB.
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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC

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12-08-2014, 02:20 PM
Beacuse MS detects the "special Russ" OS .....

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12-08-2014, 02:20 PM
Or rather their failure. SB detects it, so why can't MS?

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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC

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12-09-2014, 02:56 AM
> I understand MS has to be all things to all people, but when installing an
> update on a SSD based system takes a good deal longer than a couple of
> minutes, you have to ask "What are they doing?"
>
> Bet it would go a lot faster if they used SB.

It's the nature of the beast <g>. Microsoft, InstallShield, et al. and
SetupBuilder use different paradigms. SetupBuilder creates true native
setup executables and can install (unpack) files directly from the
executable. But most non-SetupBuilder installers have to extract into a
temporary folder first, then process the same contents again when doing the
"real" install. SetupBuilder always wins in this scenario :-)

Under the hood, SetupBuilder is powered by a very tricky technology, with a
perfect balance of speed and size. The SetupBuilder linker puts the
installer and uninstaller components (including all required dependencies)
into a small and sexy high-performance 178 KB executable.

Friedrich

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12-09-2014, 07:49 AM
I noticed that! <g>

Russ Axiom #1: If its complex, you are doing it wrong.

SetupBuilder is just simple. :-)

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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC

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12-09-2014, 12:53 PM
Hi Russ,

> I understand MS has to be all things to all people, but when
> installing an update on a SSD based system takes a good deal longer
> than a couple of minutes, you have to ask "What are they doing?"

Since I started using a SSD I haven't seen any speed advantages when
doing MS installs<g> Other installs seem to breeze through at amazing
speed - MS installer still clunks at the same speed. I think it's all
timer driven using 1sec intervals<g>

Best regards,

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12-10-2014, 06:54 AM
My observations confirm that. :-)

> Hi Russ,
>
I think it's all
> timer driven using 1sec intervals<g>
>

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Russ Eggen
RADFusion International, LLC