Autoupdate over the internet

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Hi Everyone,

I was wondering what strategies/templates people are using to keep their
deployed applications updated via internet.

Basically, I'm looking for the internet capable equivalent to Capesoft's
Autonet (which is the best thing since sliced bread).

The idea is that the user runs the .exe, it goes out and detects if a
newer version is available, and then downloads and updates automatically.

Thanks for any ideas.

Edmond Sarussi

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Edmond,

SetupBuilder Developer Edition has a Web Update (LiveUpdate) feature to
handle this.

Friedrich

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Hi Friedrich,

Thanks for the reply. I've downloaded the demo (wow, this thing has a
lot of features) and am trying to determine some things.

In addition to updating the core application, can it be also set to
update/overwrite existing supporting files and folders, like .TPS files
and .PDFs, etc?

Can I, without modifying my existing Clarion application, have it set to
autoupdate always, without user intervention?

Thanks again.

Edmond

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Edmond,

It's very unlikely you'll regret going with SetupBuilder.

Send some money to the man in Germany right now!

Cheers,
Simon

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Not so fast Simon :-)
money goes to USA if I recall correctly

Darko

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Hi Edmond,

> Thanks for the reply. I've downloaded the demo (wow, this thing has a
> lot of features) and am trying to determine some things.
>
> In addition to updating the core application, can it be also set to
> update/overwrite existing supporting files and folders, like .TPS files
> and .PDFs, etc?

Yes, no problem.

> Can I, without modifying my existing Clarion application, have it set to
> autoupdate always, without user intervention?

If you let the user start the "web update" check via a Shortcut then
absolutely no Clarion source code modification is required. If you would
like to let your own application check for updates, you have to add three or
four lines of code to your app to call the "wucheck.exe" web update client.
Similar to what we are doing in SetupBuilder. We 1.) provide a Shortcut to
check for updates, 2.) let the IDE check for updates at startup and 3.) have
two options in the IDE (see attached screenshots).

If an update is available (and your application is installed "per-machine")
then Windows will display an elevation prompt to run the update installer
with administrator execution level privileges. After that your update
process can run without any user intervention and do whatever you want.

Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft | SetupBuilder | www.lindersoft.com
954.252.3910 (within US) | +1.954.252.3910 (outside US)

--SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
--Helping You Build Better Installations
--Create Windows 10 ready installations in minutes
--Official COMODO Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

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> (which is the best thing since sliced bread).

Setupbuilder is the program to use for both your installs and updates.
It is EASY to build install programs and easy to have your customers
update your software when you publish a new version.

Plus, the support is excellent and there is an SV newsgroup just for
setupbuilder.. you really can't go wrong here.

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Ray Rippey
VMT Software

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Hi Edmond,

> The idea is that the user runs the .exe, it goes out and detects if a
> newer version is available, and then downloads and updates automatically.

Like others have said: Setup Builder! You won't regret it!

Best regards,

--
Arnor Baldvinsson - Icetips Alta LLC

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SetupBuilder is an excellent option (and we use it for our installs, so
definitly recommended anyway.)

For our own program updates we use Safe Update.
http://www.capesoft.com/accessories/SafeUpsp.htm

this is the CapeSoft equivalent of the CapeSoft Autonet <g>

Cheers
Bruce

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Hi Friedrich,

Is it correct that the way to implement this is incremental. In other
words and endusers has to update vers. 1.1 with 1.2, than 1.3 and so on.
Or can one update from 1.1 to 1.3 at once.

Dirk

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Hi Dirk,

> Is it correct that the way to implement this is incremental. In other
> words and endusers has to update vers. 1.1 with 1.2, than 1.3 and so on.
> Or can one update from 1.1 to 1.3 at once.

It depends on your deployment (update) strategy. The SB web update always
holds the LATEST version of your application. So if your update strategy
allows it, you can directly update from 1.1 to 1.3, absolutely no problem.

For example, there are 10 released updates between SetupBuilder 8.0 and 8.5.
If a SetupBuilder customer is on Version 8.0 and would like to web update
today to the latest version, he can directly go to Version 8.5 without
having to apply all the other nine maintenance builds.

Friedrich

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Ok thanks Friedrich

Dirk

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Edmond,

just some thoughts....

You have to be aware, whether your customers will be happy with an auto-update.

We sell hospital software, and their IT is normally very allergic to
everything, that happens outside of their control.

And seriously, I am happy if our program is NOT running on a computer with an
Internet connection!

We provide a separate program, that allows the Admin check manually for a
recent update being available. But there is also an option "Check for Updates
every 30 days automatically" plus a definable path, where the ZIP is to be
stored. After a download, the downloader triggers our server to send a
notification to the IT, reporting about the ZIP, where and when etc. Its up to
the Admin then, when to un-zip and install.

Its better to do nothing behind their back....

For the download (Server, Client etc) we use Nettalk, xFiles etc.

Just my thoughts,
Wolfgang

Regards,
Wolfgang Orth
www.odata.de

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Yes

>Its better to do nothing behind their back....

Jeff Slarve
www.jssoftware.com
www.twitter.com/jslarve
I'll search help files & Google for you.

Grammar troll's, are the worse.