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01-21-2016, 10:15 AM
All,

I am working hard on the "February 2016" maintenance build for SetupBuilder
10.

SetupBuilder is what you make of it. If you would like something added or
changed, please let me know. Is there anything else you would like us to
know? We welcome your feedback!

Thank you!

Friedrich

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01-21-2016, 11:55 AM
Friedrich,

> SetupBuilder is what you make of it. If you would like something added or
> changed, please let me know. Is there anything else you would like us to
> know? We welcome your feedback!

Make it do what I want it to do instead of what I tell it to do.<g>

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01-21-2016, 11:57 AM
Friedrich,

One cosmetic thing I would like (actually, I would like it in my own
Clarion programs), is to be able to double-click on the line that
separates browse headers (e.g. in Files and Folders windows that show
file details) and have the column automatically resize to the width
based on the widest data in the column.

Like Windows Explorer, Excel, etc. does.

Ideally it would only do it when the cursor changes to the resize mode,
since the current behavior brings up the details box.

Thanks...jack
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01-22-2016, 02:47 AM
Hi Friedrich,

> changed, please let me know. Is there anything else you would like us to
> know? We welcome your feedback!

1. Show more projects on the main window! It can't hold all my projects;)

2. When you hit the compile button and you happen to be on a .sbi tab
it won't compile, tells you to switch tabs. Would be nice if it just
did it for me and compiled:)

3. Ability to set the fonts and width of the left and right hand panels
in the script editor. Currently we can set the font for the editor, but
not the other two panels. My eyesight is not what it used to be:(

4. Improve the index in the help. For example the word "pragma" is
used in 10 topics, but are not in the index. "#pragma" is, but not
"pragma" "SHA" is not in the index, but listed in 4 topics.

5. Show the path to the code sign. cert. - posted recently:)

6. Option to automatically write scripts while I take a nap...

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01-22-2016, 02:48 AM
I knew he'd regret asking<g>

Jeff Slarve
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01-22-2016, 02:48 AM
> I knew he'd regret asking<g>

Yep!


:-)

Charles


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01-22-2016, 02:48 AM
1. Remember the last folder accessed when looking up files!

Liam

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01-22-2016, 02:49 AM
2. Service install Delayed Startup

Liam

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01-22-2016, 02:49 AM
3. Redistributable Manager - newer versions of MSSQL etc

Liam

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01-22-2016, 02:49 AM
>We welcome your feedback!

SetupBuilder 10 is doing an excellent job of packaging what I sell.

Now if it would just write the darn stuff!


:-)

Charles


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www.seal-soft.com - The xProduct Clarion templates - xWordCOM, xToolTip,
xDataBackup Manager and more!
www.ezchangelog.com - "Free ChangeLog software to manage your projects!"
www.setupcast.com - "A revolutionary new publishing system for software
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www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
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01-22-2016, 02:50 AM
1. Install Service , Add option to Start Automatic ,with delayed Start

2. ROLL back. Option during Uninstall , like other Installers offer

Keep up the great work, Friedrich

Ted

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01-22-2016, 02:51 AM
Howdy Ted -

Are you aware that your messages look as if you're a Lindersoft
representative?

Jeff Slarve
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01-22-2016, 04:48 AM
Lee,

>
> Make it do what I want it to do instead of what I tell it to do.<g>
>

Okay, I'll do my best <g>

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 04:48 AM
Jack,

Thank you for your suggestion. Not sure if this is possible, but I will
investigate.

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 04:49 AM
>I knew he'd regret asking<g>

Friedrich has left the building... <g>

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01-22-2016, 04:49 AM
Hi Arnor,

> 1. Show more projects on the main window! It can't hold all my
> projects;)

In V10 the Start Page already increased the number of recent projects from
10 to 20 items (it was not a trivial task to change it). The "Pick" dialog
can display up to 100 projects now.

But I'll see if it is possible to add a scroll up/down mechanism.

> 2. When you hit the compile button and you happen to be on a .sbi tab it
> won't compile, tells you to switch tabs. Would be nice if it just did it
> for me and compiled:)

Yes, it's getting on my nerves, too <g>.

> 3. Ability to set the fonts and width of the left and right hand panels
> in the script editor. Currently we can set the font for the editor, but
> not the other two panels. My eyesight is not what it used to be:(

Okay, good idea.

> 4. Improve the index in the help. For example the word "pragma" is used
> in 10 topics, but are not in the index. "#pragma" is, but not "pragma"
> "SHA" is not in the index, but listed in 4 topics.

I agree!

>
> 5. Show the path to the code sign. cert. - posted recently:)
>

Added!

>
> 6. Option to automatically write scripts while I take a nap...
>

OKAY <bg> ;-)

Thank you for your suggestions.

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 04:50 AM
>
> 3. Redistributable Manager - newer versions of MSSQL etc
>

Unfortunately, this would be a hefty 600+ MB set of redistributables. So
it's nearly impossible to handle it as a Core PreRequisite. And it is not
easy to deploy later versions of MSSQL automatically (a lot of fine tune is
required). For example, programmatically enabling .NET Framework 3.5 on
newer operating systems is impossible (for SQL 2014). About 40% of all
SetupBuilder script writing consulting projects are for MSSQL. It's a
nightmare.

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 04:50 AM
>
> 2. Service install Delayed Startup
>

Added to the list! Thank you!

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 04:50 AM
Liam,

> 1. Remember the last folder accessed when looking up files!

Yes, some dialogs do not remember, some dialogs do. We'll change this,
thank you.

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 04:51 AM
>>We welcome your feedback!
>
> SetupBuilder 10 is doing an excellent job of packaging what I sell.

Thank you so much !!!

> Now if it would just write the darn stuff!

<G> ;-)

Friedfrich

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01-22-2016, 04:52 AM
Ted,

>
> 2. ROLL back. Option during Uninstall , like other Installers offer
>

Hmmm, roolback is supported. See attached screenshot. The developer can
decide what to do (optional or mandatory). Is this what you are looking
for?

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 04:53 AM
G'day Friedrich

Could SB be used to automate the setup of a VPN? i.e. as per attached...

This is something I know little about, but may need to do at some stage.

John

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01-22-2016, 06:13 AM
Hi John,

> G'day Friedrich
>
> Could SB be used to automate the setup of a VPN? i.e. as per attached...
>
> This is something I know little about, but may need to do at some stage.

To be honest, I have absolutely no idea, sorry :-(

But I remember that last year (or in late 2014) one of our customers created
a silent VPN Client installer with SetupBuilder. It processed automatically
without any inputs from the user. But I don't know if this is even related
to your VPN thing. He had to start/stop a software and start/stop a tunnel.
He developed the script in SetupBuilder 8.x - I was not directly involved in
that. I just answered some SetupBuilder related questions.

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 08:12 AM
Friedrich,

> Okay, I'll do my best <g>

You always do!

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01-22-2016, 08:13 AM
Dear Friedrich!

In Options, file locations, digital signature, the path to the .pfx file.
As most uf us uses signtool.exe today, it will be handy.

Perhaps that i just dont't know how.

To get down to the last compiler directives takes time. Perhaps a
possibility of adding the frequently used scripts in a group.

Best regards

Edvard Korsbæk

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01-22-2016, 12:05 PM
Hi Edvard,

> In Options, file locations, digital signature, the path to the .pfx file.
> As most uf us uses signtool.exe today, it will be handy.
>
> Perhaps that i just dont't know how.
>
> To get down to the last compiler directives takes time. Perhaps a
> possibility of adding the frequently used scripts in a group.

In the next SB maintenance build there will be a new "global" IDE option
(not my idea <g>, a big thanks to Lee).

( ) Use SHA configuration from project
( ) Global SHA-1 only [--this is new--]
( ) Global SHA-2 only [--this is new--]
(*) Global SHA-1 & SHA-2 dual [--this is new--]

Global .PFX Certificate : ________________________________
Global .PFX Password : ________________________________
Global SHA-1 Timestamp Server: ________________________________
Global SHA-2 Timestamp Server: ________________________________

If the above IDE configuration is set to a "Global" option then the compiler
uses the global configuration instead of the per-project settings.

Friedrich

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01-22-2016, 02:20 PM
Hi Friedrich,

> In V10 the Start Page already increased the number of recent projects from
> 10 to 20 items (it was not a trivial task to change it). The "Pick" dialog
> can display up to 100 projects now.
>
> But I'll see if it is possible to add a scroll up/down mechanism.

Is this some special control? It just looks like a listbox to me, so
I'm not sure I follow...

Best regards,

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01-23-2016, 05:01 AM
Hi Friedrich

Interesting comment about one of your other customers and VPN. So what I might need to
do may be possible. Ah, I love a challenge!

John

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01-23-2016, 05:02 AM
On the settings window "General Information", I wish it were easier to
navigate the tabs rather than having to click that little scroll
thingy (or pressing Ctrl+Tab).

If the window and the sheet (not neccesarily the controls on the tabs)
could be re-sized so that there's less scrolling to do, that would be
really helpful to me. Or even a droplist with the tab names on it.

Jeff Slarve
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01-23-2016, 05:03 AM
Hi Jeff,

> If the window and the sheet (not neccesarily the controls on the tabs)
> could be re-sized so that there's less scrolling to do, that would be
> really helpful to me. Or even a droplist with the tab names on it.

Agreed - those buttons are small and I easily miss them. I think they
are just the regular Clarion tab scrolling buttons though...

However you *can* double click on an item in the droplist (see
screenshot) and it opens on that tab



I.e. if I click on the "Installer Background" it opens the window on the
"Installer Style" tab.

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01-23-2016, 05:57 AM
Hi Arnor,

>> But I'll see if it is possible to add a scroll up/down mechanism.
>
> Is this some special control? It just looks like a listbox to me, so
> I'm not sure I follow...

It's a special control I developed 10+ years ago in Clarion to imitate the
Visual Studio style. Under the hood a (very) complex thing.

Friedrich

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01-24-2016, 05:14 AM
Neat-o! I think that will change how I navigate SB.

Thanks.

Jeff Slarve
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01-24-2016, 05:15 AM
Hi Friedrich,

> It's a special control I developed 10+ years ago in Clarion to imitate the
> Visual Studio style. Under the hood a (very) complex thing.

Right, I remember now! MS is a master of making simple things
complicated;) Personally I have never liked those things<g>

Just curious: What is it that makes it so complex?

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01-24-2016, 05:15 AM
Hi Jeff,

> Neat-o! I think that will change how I navigate SB.

Yeah, I hardly ever navigate with those tab scrolling button thingy;)

But I wish there was an option to expand and contract the whole panel
window...

Best regards,

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Icetips Alta LLC

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01-24-2016, 05:16 AM
Hi Friedrich,

> know? We welcome your feedback!

See Jeff's thread about the scroll buttons on the properties window and
my response about double clicking on the drop panel list.

How about an option to expand and contract ALL the panels in the
"General Information" node? ...

Oh, doh, it's already there!<bg> NEVER MIND!!!

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01-24-2016, 05:16 AM
Microsoft! <bg>

> Just curious: What is it that makes it so complex?

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01-26-2016, 02:41 AM
> 2. Service install Delayed Startup

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02-09-2016, 08:00 AM
Hi Arnor,

> 2. When you hit the compile button and you happen to be on a .sbi
> tab it won't compile, tells you to switch tabs. Would be nice if
> it just did it for me and compiled:)

Finally changed now (it was not trivial to do). This has been getting on my
nerves for years.

Friedrich

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02-09-2016, 12:01 PM
Sweet

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02-10-2016, 02:25 AM
Hi Friedrich,

> Finally changed now (it was not trivial to do). This has been getting
> on my nerves for years. Friedrich

I'm glad I could contribute to saving your nerves;)

Best regards,

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02-11-2016, 05:37 AM
> All,
>
> I am working hard on the "February 2016" maintenance build for SetupBuilder
> 10.

Ok, first, I haven't dug into this yet.. but I'd really like a way that
when I make an update install (that uses wupdate or wucheck) that I
could easily add a message.. so when my customer goes to check for the
update, it would display that message... like: "This is version 4.8
which includes some stuff.. blah blah, would you care to update?".

Also easier access to sign wupdate or wucheck automatically (like I said
I haven't looked into this so if it's already there.. great.

Thanks again for your great product.

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02-22-2016, 06:03 AM
FYI: The new SetupBuilder 2016 Version 10.0 maintenance build #5074 is
scheduled to be available on February 29, 2016.

Friedrich

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02-23-2016, 02:22 AM
Friedrich,

> FYI: The new SetupBuilder 2016 Version 10.0 maintenance build #5074 is
> scheduled to be available on February 29, 2016.

Then it's a good thing this is a leap year!<g>

Lee White

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02-23-2016, 02:23 AM
>
> Then it's a good thing this is a leap year!<g>
>

Absolutely <bg>

Friedrich

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02-23-2016, 04:16 AM
Liam,

>
> 2. Service install Delayed Startup
>

This is already supported in SB10 (see attached screenshot). Does this work
for you?

Friedrich

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02-23-2016, 04:18 AM
Ted,

>
> 1. Install Service , Add option to Start Automatic ,with delayed Start
>

Forgot to answer this one. This is already supported (see attached
screenshot). Does this work for you?

Friedrich

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02-23-2016, 04:46 AM
Mark,

>> 2. Service install Delayed Startup
>
> +1
> --

This is already supported in SB10.

Friedrich

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02-23-2016, 09:24 AM
Hi Friedrich,

I ended up putting a shortcut into the "Startup" folder and not running my app
as a service.

But good to know it is available!

Liam

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02-23-2016, 09:24 AM
Hi Liam,

Thank you for the update!

Friedrich

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02-24-2016, 02:03 AM
Friedrich,

> > Then it's a good thing this is a leap year!<g>
>
> Absolutely <bg>

I've always felt sorry for folks born on the 29th... they only get to
party every 4 years and age rapidly each birthday!<g>

Lee White

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02-26-2016, 02:41 AM
Yeah, its like having a birthday on Saturn. Don't ask <g>

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02-26-2016, 02:41 AM
Hi RUss,

> Yeah, its like having a birthday on Saturn. Don't ask <g>

Or that ninth planet! Every 20-30K years is a LONG time to wait for a cake!

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02-27-2016, 11:17 AM
I'd like a full incremental or part of the file locator, intead of the
step locator.

Best Regards...

Roberto Renz