SetupBuilder 5.2 Build #1354 is released

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SetupBuilder 5.2 Build #1354 is released.

Click on "Check for updates" in the "Help" menu to auto-update your current
SB5 version.

You can also download the full SetupBuilder 5.2 Build #1354 install image by
following the appropriate link below:

For Developer Edition:
http://www.lindersoft.com/setupscript_4.htm

For Professional Edition:
http://www.lindersoft.com/lspsfx10_4.htm

To renew your Maintenance and Support Plan, please visit:
http://www.lindersoft.com/order.htm


Change log for release of SetupBuilder 5.2 Build 1354 (December 19, 2005)
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Features/Improvements/Fixes/Workarounds/Changes/Notes:

IMPROVEMENT: Add "Do not ask before uploading files" checkbox to the SB5
Options dialog.

IMPROVEMENT: [SB#512152] Before uploading the release, the compiler can ask
if you want to upload it.

IMPROVEMENT: [SB#512151] "Stop" compiler button can cancel FTP Upload
process now.

IMPROVEMENT: Start Page: add "Back", "Forward", and "Home" buttons to the
Online Community view.

IMPROVEMENT: Get Started: allow deletion (right-click) of selected "Recent
Project" entries.

IMPROVEMENT: Pick List: allow deletion of selected "Recent Project" entries.

FIX : [SB#512161] "#ftp upload" item could not be deleted from within
the Script Editor.

FIX : IDE: minor fixes.

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Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

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Thanks!!!! :-)

You Da Man!

-Robert

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:)

Thank you for all your suggestions!

Friedrich

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Hi

If you can send me the names of the constants that are added i can make sure
the language is updated.

Kind Regards

Ben

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Hi Ben,

Thank you! But nothing has changed in the language resource files in 135x.

Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

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On 19 Dec 2005 07:04:22 -0500, friedrich linder wrote:

> SetupBuilder 5.2 Build #1354 is released.
>

Friedrich,

The update GPF'd again. Please let me know what I can do to help find this.

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Mark

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Mark,

Please do *not* update your software (using the full install). I'll send
you a small debug version tomorrow morning, okay? Then we can find out
which function GPFs.

BTW, does it GPF when the dialog tells you a new version is available or
after it downloaded the web installer?

Thank you for your help!

Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

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BTW, do you use a proxy server to connect to the Internet? If this is the
case, do you see the proxy information pre-filled in the proxy dialog?

Thanks,
Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

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On 19 Dec 2005 12:33:09 -0500, friedrich linder wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Please do *not* update your software (using the full install). I'll send
> you a small debug version tomorrow morning, okay? Then we can find out
> which function GPFs.

Ok, no prob.

> BTW, does it GPF when the dialog tells you a new version is available or
> after it downloaded the web installer?

This time, I let it nag me to close SB5, rather than closing it myself
after the download/upgrade process starts.

Shortly after closing it, the updater GPF'd. Thats roughly the same as last
time, I think it was either downloading sbuilder.exe or installing it,
based on the dialog being displayed.

--

Mark

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Mark,

For grins, uninstall SB and ensure the folder is actually empty (save for
your projects). Re-boot. Install the full install version and see if the
auto-path GPFs again.

HTH,

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Russ Eggen
www.radfusion.com

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On 19 Dec 2005 13:37:28 -0500, Russell B. Eggen wrote:

> For grins, uninstall SB and ensure the folder is actually empty (save for
> your projects). Re-boot. Install the full install version and see if the
> auto-path GPFs again.

I did that last time. Friedrich asked me NOT to do that this time.
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Mark

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On 19 Dec 2005 12:38:10 -0500, friedrich linder wrote:

> BTW, do you use a proxy server to connect to the Internet? If this is the
> case, do you see the proxy information pre-filled in the proxy dialog?

No, I dont use a proxy.
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Mark

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Mark,

See private email.

Thanks,
Friedrich

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Question: I currently am using SetupBuilder 5.0.1244. I'm having a GPF
problem on one machine during install, but no others. I have concerns about
upgrading to the latest. My concerns are:

1. I'm terrified of upgrading to the latest SB because I'm afraid that I
will have to go through the process of debugging my scripts all over again.

2. I am on C6.1 latest, and I'm concerned that with a newer version that
when I call my older .dlls there will be a problem. I've heard that SV no
longer offers the $150 maintenance option and I surely am not committing to
CW 7 at this point. I'll wait for time-limited trial of CW 7.0 to come
out, and if it looks good, then I'll buy it. It also doesn't make sense to
commit that far into the future. One cannot know what he will be doing by
that time. Opportunities change for all of us all continually.

3. SB will have changed so much that I no longer recognize it, and need to
learn all over again.

Please advise,
Jack T.

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Jack,

> I've heard that SV no longer offers the $150 maintenance option

They seem to be:

https://www.shop.softvelocity.net/displayProductDocument.hg?productId=17&categoryId=6

John

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Jack,

> Question: I currently am using SetupBuilder 5.0.1244. I'm having a GPF
> problem on one machine during install, but no others. I have concerns
> about upgrading to the latest. My concerns are:
>
> 1. I'm terrified of upgrading to the latest SB because I'm afraid that I
> will have to go through the process of debugging my scripts all over
> again.

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean. I guess either too much coffee or
not enough on my side <g>.

> 2. I am on C6.1 latest, and I'm concerned that with a newer version that
> when I call my older .dlls there will be a problem. I've heard that SV no
> longer offers the $150 maintenance option and I surely am not committing
> to CW 7 at this point. I'll wait for time-limited trial of CW 7.0 to
> come out, and if it looks good, then I'll buy it. It also doesn't make
> sense to commit that far into the future. One cannot know what he will be
> doing by that time. Opportunities change for all of us all continually.

SetupBuilder 5 is language independent and comes with its own compiler and
linker technology. The IDE is Clarion 6.2 source code. It creates native
Win32 executables and the DLL calling feature has nothing to do with the
Clarion version. The installer and uninstaller engines, patch engine,
compression library and important service libraries are 100% Visual Studio
2002/2003/2005 C/C++/C# code. Compiled SB5 setup.exe files never rely on
Clarion. We can support 32-bit and 64-bit and current UI (XP and future
Vista Theme Support) from within the setup.exe.

> 3. SB will have changed so much that I no longer recognize it, and need
> to learn all over again.

Do you have concerns that SB5 changed so much between build #1244 and #1354?
What we do in the next few years is to improve the SB product line. Please
see "SetupBuilder Roadmap 2006" topic.

BTW, there is a SetupBuilder 5.2 evaluation version available. We'll make
a new build available soon. We'll introduce a Visual Dialog Editor within
the next 4-6 weeks.

--
Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

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Someone else touched base with me with a private e-mail indicating that they
were concerned too but that they have not encountered any problems with
their scripts which were also written quite awhile back. He basically
stated that everything seems to be backward compatible and that the
environment has added new features, but is not that different, which is good
news for me.

> SetupBuilder 5 is language independent and comes with its own compiler and
> linker technology. The IDE is Clarion 6.2 source code. It creates native
> Win32 executables and the DLL calling feature has nothing to do with the
> Clarion version. The installer and uninstaller engines, patch engine,
> compression library and important service libraries are 100% Visual Studio
> 2002/2003/2005 C/C++/C# code. Compiled SB5 setup.exe files never rely on
> Clarion. We can support 32-bit and 64-bit and current UI (XP and future
> Vista Theme Support) from within the setup.exe.

That's what I want to hear.

> BTW, there is a SetupBuilder 5.2 evaluation version available. We'll make
> a new build available soon. <

I'm on maintenance with you, I just don't have time to learn something new
or participate in betas at the moment because I'm too busy.

Thanks,
Jack T.

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Thank you, Jack. Yes, all SB5 scripts are backwards compatible. The same
will be true for SetupBuilder 5.5, 6.0, etc.

BTW, I am always here to help. If there is any problem or question, or if
you are concerned about something, please let me know. I believe we have a
very stable installation product now.

Thanks,
Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

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Hi Jack,

>Question: I currently am using SetupBuilder 5.0.1244. I'm having a GPF
>problem on one machine during install, but no others. I have concerns about
>upgrading to the latest. My concerns are:
>
>1. I'm terrified of upgrading to the latest SB because I'm afraid that I
>will have to go through the process of debugging my scripts all over again.

I have about 10 install scripts in SB5, 3 of them dealing with ASA and
5 of them dealing with webupdates. I started using it long time ago
when it first came out in beta. I have not always kept up with the
updates, but for the most part I have been up todate. I'm using the
latest build now.

The only thing that sometimes happened during the beta period was that
string resources used on the background would get corrupt causing some
of the text (header, subheader, footer) not to show up. Friedrich
generally fixed those when I sent them to him or I simply re-created
the scripts. The webupdater has worked very nicely and Friedrich has
implemented all my suggestions in that area so I really can't
complain;)

I don't quite understand your concerns. You are using an old version
of the program and there have been many fixes and updates since then
that have only made the product much better. I have never had to
"debug" the scripts.

Best regards,

Arnór Baldvinsson
Icetips Software
San Antonio, Texas, USA
www.icetips.com


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>I believe we have a very stable installation product now.<

That's cool! Last time I needed it bad and needed it early, so I needed to
be a lab rodent. When I got something pretty good, I scampered off and hid
on you. In the mean time I've heard rumors of an SB help system, a more
stable version of CW etc., but I wanted to look around before I came out of
my hole.

Thanks,
Jack T.

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> I don't quite understand your concerns. You are using an old version of
> the program and there have been many fixes and updates since then that
> have only made the product much better.<

Well when I was involved, not every release or patch of CW went in a
northerly direction, and when it didn't, it frequently affected SB and
caused Friedrich's ears to turn red.

>I have never had to "debug" the scripts.<

I have. New ways of doing things caused me to have to move and redo things.
Since I haven't kept up with the product I needed to ask.

Thanks,
Jack T.