Mail bouncing

[NewsArchive]

Friedrich,

My replies to your email of last week re: my GPF are bouncing back as
"service temporarily unavailable, retry timeout exceeded".

--

Mark

[NewsArchive]

Mark,

Hmm, I don't have any server error in my server log file. Could you please
resend your email?

Thanks,
Friedrich

--
Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

[NewsArchive]

Still getting the same message:

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<xxx@lindersoft.com>:
host mailwash19.pair.com [66.39.2.19]: 450 <xxx@lindersoft.com>:
Recipient address rejected: Service temporarily unavailable:
retry timeout exceeded

--

Mark

[NewsArchive]

Mark,

Strange. I have received about 60 emails today. Just sent 10 test emails
and I received all of them.

Could you please send your email to support (at) lindersoft (dot) com Same error?

Thanks,
Friedrich

--
Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

[NewsArchive]

On 27 Dec 2005 12:44:05 -0500, friedrich linder wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Strange. I have received about 60 emails today. Just sent 10 test emails
> and I received all of them.
>
> Could you please send your email to support (at) lindersoft (dot) com Same error?
>
> Thanks,
> Friedrich

Done. No bounce so far, previously they were appearing rather quickly. Note
the reference to pair.com in the headers if you get it. I dont use
pair.com:)
--

Mark

[NewsArchive]

Mark,

I did not receive it :-(

I contacted our web hoster and they suspect you are "greylisted".
Greylisting looks at the IP address of the sender and the recipient address.
If the system does not recognize this information, then it will temporarily
reject the e-mail.

I have disabled this "feature" now. Could you please resend it again to
friedrich (at) lindersoft (dot) com

Thanks,
Friedrich

--
Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

[NewsArchive]

On 28 Dec 2005 02:23:20 -0500, friedrich linder wrote:

> I contacted our web hoster and they suspect you are "greylisted".
> Greylisting looks at the IP address of the sender and the recipient address.
> If the system does not recognize this information, then it will temporarily
> reject the e-mail.

They "suspect" that? Either it is or it isnt. One would think they would
know:) Greylisted by who? Them or some central "authority"? If the latter,
who?

Also: I got your email.
--

Mark

[NewsArchive]

To be frank, I have no idea. I have disabled the "Graylisting" feature now
and have received your email without any problem.

I think it's some kind of "e-mail header" problem (but I am not an expert in
this field).

Emergency technical support told me the following:

Greylisting looks at the IP address of the sender and the recipient
address. If the system does not recognize this information, then it will
temporarily reject the e-mail. All legitimate e-mail systems will attempt
to resend the e-mail at a later time, and the e-mail will go through.

Most applications that send junk e-mail just send junk e-mail messages
once and do not attempt to resend them. These junk e-mail applications
use the "fire-and-forget" method, which means that if the junk e-mailer
was unsuccessful at sending junk e-mail to a particular e-mail address,
the application will not try to resend that e-mail message.

Greylisting does not delete legitimate e-mail messages. All legitimate
e-mails will go through using greylisting. The only potential effect
greylisting may have for pair Networks customers is a slight delay in the
delivery of legitimate e-mail messages.

However, these delays can be avoided by adding e-mail addresses to your
"Accepted Addresses" list. Any e-mail address in your "Accepted
Addresses" list will not be subjected to greylisting. In addition, if
you do experience a delay with a certain e-mail address, you will not
experience that delay again over the next 30-day period.

Friedrich

[NewsArchive]

On 28 Dec 2005 11:36:45 -0500, friedrich linder wrote:

> To be frank, I have no idea. I have disabled the "Graylisting" feature now
> and have received your email without any problem.
>
> I think it's some kind of "e-mail header" problem (but I am not an expert in
> this field).

If they happen to mention more specifics, please pass that info on:)
--

Mark

[NewsArchive]

Mark,

Sounds to me like they are doing reverse DNS lookups.

Benjamin Krajmalnik

[NewsArchive]

On 28 Dec 2005 20:18:00 -0500, Benjamin Krajmalnik wrote:

> Sounds to me like they are doing reverse DNS lookups.

From what I read, thats lame way to detect spam. I suppose if thats all you
got, thats all you got.

That said, I dont know why a reverse dns would fail on that addr.
--

Mark

[NewsArchive]

I have disabled "Greylisting" yesterday morning and spam increased by
40%!!!! Wow.

I'll enable the feature again, but you are on a whitelist now.

Friedrich

--
Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

[NewsArchive]

On 29 Dec 2005 01:43:48 -0500, friedrich linder wrote:

> I'll enable the feature again, but you are on a whitelist now.

For one of us, thats a good thing<g>

Thanks!
--

Mark