SetupBuilder 6.7 "May 2008 Update" Release Announcement

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SetupBuilder 6.7 "May 2008 Update" Release Announcement

We are pleased to announce the availability of SetupBuilder 6.7 "May 2008
Update". This release is available, free of charge, to all SetupBuilder
customers who have an active SetupBuilder maintenance subscription plan.
This is an update to our latest stable release, and contains some important
bug fixes and improvements. We strongly recommend that all customers upgrade
to the latest version of SetupBuilder 6.7 as soon as possible to maintain
the highest level of support, performance and reliability.

To get the latest product version, select "Check for Updates" from within
the SetupBuilder 6 IDE.

To get the latest documentation, select "Check for Documentation Updates"
from within the SetupBuilder 6 IDE.


SetupBuilder 6.7 -- May 2008 Update -- Build 2219 (May 2, 2008)
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FEATURE : Add "Italian (Standard).lng" language file (thanks to Guennadi
Iounok).

FEATURE : Add support for "Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Runtime Libraries
Redistributable (9.0.21022.8)". (Developer Edition only).

IMPROVEMENT: Installer: Optimized detection of "temporary" locked files.
This will avoid the "-200 decompression error" when replacing
"temporary" locked files. It is a permanent change in the
installer runtime.

FIX : IDE: The compiler ignored the "Group" item in the "Create
Service..." function.

FIX : [SB#805011] IDE: Encryption in the "#zip file..." pre-processor
was not working as expected.

FIX : [SB#805012] Installer: Encryption in the "Zip File(s)..."
function was not working as expected.

FIX : [SB#805013] Installer: Possible "Register OCX" and "Unregister
OCX" problems.

CHANGE : Installer: Revert code changes from Build 2198 ["Check In-use
file..." script function can detect in-use true type fonts
now] back to Build 2163. The "Check In-use file..." script
function cannot detect temporary in-use fonts.

CHANGE : IDE: The "About SetupBuilder..." dialog displays the
maintenance subscription expiration ID in form of mm/dd/yyyy
now.

CHANGE : IDE: If "#code-sign application..." fails, an error code is
reported.

CHANGE : IDE: Minor cosmetic modifications.

CHANGE : Updated online help.

CHANGE : Updated PDF manual.


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A minor bug slipped through in the new support for "Microsoft Visual C++
2008 Runtime Libraries Redistributable (9.0.21022.8)" via the Core
PreRequisites Visualizer. The event to include/exclude the new
redistributable is not fired. To work around this, use the "#include
script" directive and add the VC2008 include script (see attached
screenshot).

This will be fixed in the next web update.

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Hi friedrich,

> FEATURE : Add "Italian (Standard).lng" language file (thanks to
Guennadi Iounok).

Thank again <g>.

BTW I think this is wrong because I saw Spanish language file during
installation...

Gennadi

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Hi Gennadi,

>> FEATURE : Add "Italian (Standard).lng" language file (thanks to
> Guennadi Iounok).
>
> Thank again <g>.
>
> BTW I think this is wrong because I saw Spanish language file during
> installation...

<G> Of course, you are absolutely right. It should read:

CHANGE : Updated Spanish (Traditional Sort) language file (thanks to
Alberto Michelis).

Thanks,
Friedrich

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CHANGE : IDE: The "About SetupBuilder..." dialog displays the
maintenance subscription expiration ID in form of mm/dd/yyyy
now.

Hi

i am very disappointed in this change. You are forcing me to read a date
differently than what is set up in my OS regional settings.

I think this is silly and I wishyou would revert back to D17 as a display
format.

Kind Regards

Ben

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Hi Ben,

>I think this is silly and I wishyou would revert back to D17 as a display
>format.

I have started to use D18 - i.e. long format - for dates where I can.
Numeric only is just confusing as heck when dealing with international
dates.

Best regards,

Arnór Baldvinsson
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Hi

I usually allow the end user to determine if they want the short or the long
format as part of their setup parameters.

It's only Canada, Phillipines and USA that still use D1 to D4 Ranged Dates

Kind Regards

Ben

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Yeah... only 90 percent of the Clarion customer base (and therefor the
majority of SetupBuilder customers)

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Hi

Do you seriously think that 90 % of all Clarion users are USA and Canada ?

Kind Regards

Ben

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Personally, I prefer YYYYMMDD... as it's more 'sort' capable.

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Ben,

>Yeah... only 90 percent of the Clarion customer base (and therefor the
>majority of SetupBuilder customers)

I would not bet on that. SetupBuilder is used by other developers/users as well
and I think that market is much bigger that the Clarion one.

Regards
Shankar

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>>Yeah... only 90 percent of the Clarion customer base (and therefor the
>>majority of SetupBuilder customers)
>
> I would not bet on that. SetupBuilder is used by other developers/users as well
> and I think that market is much bigger that the Clarion one.

AND Friedrich, for one, is VERY glad that the SetupBuilder market IS much
larger than the Clarion one (how be it - I'm sure he's very grateful for
our support/sales and common interests!) :-D

David

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Ben,

> i am very disappointed in this change. You are forcing me to read a date
> differently than what is set up in my OS regional settings.
>
> I think this is silly and I wishyou would revert back to D17 as a display
> format.

We changed the date format to bring the IDE in-sync with the SetupBuilder
"Subscription" and "Registration" email notifications.

The subscription/registration notifications display the subscription
expiration date as mm/dd/yyyy. The different date formats confused some
users - that's why we changed it to mm/dd/yyyy in the IDE.

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Hi Ben,

>Yeah... only 90 percent of the Clarion customer base (and therefor the
>majority of SetupBuilder customers)

I seriously doubt both. I would suspect that SB is more than 50%
non-Clarion, my gut tells me it's probably somewhere around 75%
non-clarion.

Best regards,

Arnór Baldvinsson
Icetips Creative, Inc.
San Antonio, Texas, USA
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Hi Friedrich,

>The subscription/registration notifications display the subscription
>expiration date as mm/dd/yyyy. The different date formats confused some
>users - that's why we changed it to mm/dd/yyyy in the IDE.

Personally I would use long format for both. It takes out any
ambiguity to see "May 3, 2008" :)

Best regards,

Arnór Baldvinsson
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San Antonio, Texas, USA
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Hi Arnór,

>>The subscription/registration notifications display the subscription
>>expiration date as mm/dd/yyyy. The different date formats confused some
>>users - that's why we changed it to mm/dd/yyyy in the IDE.
>
> Personally I would use long format for both. It takes out any
> ambiguity to see "May 3, 2008" :)

Yes, I think you are right :) Seems to be the best solution. I'll change
it to the long format in the next build.

Thanks,
Friedrich

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Hi Arnór,

>>Yeah... only 90 percent of the Clarion customer base (and therefor the
>>majority of SetupBuilder customers)
>
> I seriously doubt both. I would suspect that SB is more than 50%
> non-Clarion, my gut tells me it's probably somewhere around 75%
> non-clarion.

You are very good :) SB is between 70% and 75% non-Clarion.

Friedrich

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>
> You are very good :) SB is between 70% and 75% non-Clarion.
>

BTW, and the above does *NOT* mean that the Clarion community is "small"!

Friedrich

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Based on the number of books sold (and continue to sell <g>), I would agree.
I'm amazed how many did sell! Exceeded what I thought was the size of the
community and it echoes what Z stated at the last US Devcon.

Not that I am complaining, mind you! <bg>

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Hi Friedrich,

>You are very good :) SB is between 70% and 75% non-Clarion.

Learned from the master;)

Best regards,

Arnór Baldvinsson
Icetips Creative, Inc.
San Antonio, Texas, USA
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SB customers are not what I was talking about.. I said 90 percent of Clarion
customers are from the US. Granted, there are quite a few non-US, but it
only stands to reason that since SoftVelocity is based in the USA and
DOESN'T have a marketing effort, that most of it's customers would come from
the US. That's not to say that there are many illegal copies of Clarion
out there throughout the world.

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Ben, sorry to bulge in like a bull BUT Setup Builder is way off in another
world then Clarion : it is in "the" real world.just like PDF Xchange is
.....and I really doubt SB has 25000 clients in Clarion world .... so this
way of counting is not a good one ... :)

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JP,

Please don't get into these types of "debates" here. Clarion is in the same
"real world" as the other products.

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Hi Friedrich,

>Yes, I think you are right :) Seems to be the best solution. I'll change
>it to the long format in the next build.

Personally I use yyyymmdd or yyyy-mm-dd for just about everything
because it always sorts correctly<g> I use it for filenames,
foldernames, all sorts of things. I grew up with dd/mm/yyyy and now I
use mm/dd/yyyy and prefer mmm dd, yyyy<g>

Best regards,

Arnór Baldvinsson
Icetips Creative, Inc.
San Antonio, Texas, USA
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GMTA.... yyyymmdd

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Friederich,

Kill the problem by simply using the windows long locale seetting .....all
will be happy and we will save space of the Clarion HD storing the posts
<VBG>

My 0.0001 cent

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> Kill the problem by simply using the windows long locale seetting .....all
> will be happy and we will save space of the Clarion HD storing the posts

Hi JP,

I think the problem there would be that when Friedrich mails out his
registration data to the clients - he has no way of knowing what their
locale setting would be. As such, if he sends it out in one format and the
customer is used to another, it can cause confusion.

If he uses the long format (i.e. May 4, 2008) then there can be no doubt at
all.

Does that make sense?

;-)

Charles



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Agreed!

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> Do you seriously think that 90 % of all Clarion users are USA and Canada ?

Who would know outside of SV? Only Harms and the 3rd party vendors can
speculate based on their sales - but that is still not statistically
binding to the truth:)
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Russel,

I am getting in no debate ... neither here nor there.

Of course Clarion is also in the real world !

I was answering a Post on "clients" and percentages of clients .....

.......

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I thought we were talking about the IDE showing the date as this or
that...must have misread - sorry
In which case ... an email parser ?

No idea at all :)

But what about this then
Year : 2008
Month : 05
Day : 25

at least normally all should understand <VBG>


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Hi Charles,

>> Kill the problem by simply using the windows long locale seetting .....all
....
>I think the problem there would be that when Friedrich mails out his
>registration data to the clients - he has no way of knowing what their

The Long Locale (@d18 in Clarion) will show up in SetupBuilder as May
4, or 4. May or whatever depending on the locale. I'm sure Friedrich
can put the date into is emails using that - or similar - format:)

Using any other format gives way for locale interpretations of dates
such as 05/04/08. Is it May 4, 2008, April 5, 2008, April 8, 2005 or
what?<g>

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Charles,

> I think the problem there would be that when Friedrich mails out his
> registration data to the clients - he has no way of knowing what their
> locale setting would be. As such, if he sends it out in one format and
> the customer is used to another, it can cause confusion.

Yes, this exactly is the problem. We'll use the long date format in the
next build (IDE and notifications).

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> Using any other format gives way for locale interpretations of dates
> such as 05/04/08. Is it May 4, 2008, April 5, 2008, April 8, 2005 or
> what?<g>

Exactly!

Charles


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> We'll use the long date format in the next build (IDE and notifications).

I'm going to make that the default (and suggested) setting for the key
generation and formatting for SoftDefense as well.

In a global economy, it is the only way that makes sense.

;-)

Charles



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Just occurred to me.

Friedrich's announcement of Feb 18th says "SetupBuilder....global
e-community
of registered members officially surpassed the 10,000 mark."

So if 70% - 75% SB users are Non-Clarion that means there are about 2,500
Clarion users ?

Just food for thought since the number of Clarion users is never really a
known quantity.


MDB

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> So if 70% - 75% SB users are Non-Clarion that means there are about 2,500
> Clarion users ?

Its bigger than that, I think. There are still people not using installers,
using Wise/InstallShield/etc as well.
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And those that have batch files that do something like copy *.* c:\ <bg>


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> Just occurred to me.
>
> Friedrich's announcement of Feb 18th says "SetupBuilder....global
> e-community
> of registered members officially surpassed the 10,000 mark."
>
> So if 70% - 75% SB users are Non-Clarion that means there are about 2,500
> Clarion users ?

Mike,

You really have an odd way of interpreting stats:

The surpassed 10,000 mark is I believe the figure for registered users of
Lindersoft forums - hardly an indication of the total number of
SetupBuilder registered users since a lot of customers who buy products
don't register or even use support forums in a non-registered mode.

David

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Hi Michael,

>So if 70% - 75% SB users are Non-Clarion that means there are about 2,500
>Clarion users ?

I think you are reading things into these numbers that aren't there.
The 10,000 number was for the registered users on Friedrich forums.
That doesn't say anything at all about the number of Clarion users.
It's possible that 2500 of the 10,000 on Friedrich's forum are Clarion
users, yes, but that doesn't say anything about how many Clarion users
there are. Lot of people who use Clario never use install tools, and
lot of people who use Clarion and use install tools, don't use SB.

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> lot of people who use Clarion and use install tools, don't use SB

!!!!!!!! DON'T USE SB <gasp>! Why would someone do installs and NOT use SB?
!!!!!!!

Al

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Hi Al,

>> lot of people who use Clarion and use install tools, don't use SB
>
>!!!!!!!! DON'T USE SB <gasp>! Why would someone do installs and NOT use SB?
>!!!!!!!

Beats me!<g>

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Yea...after I posted it I realized it wasn't too valid.

michael d. brooks